Originally Posted by Robbie

BINGO.

Zorgman, you need to visit the surfer forums. Your eyes will be opened.

That's one of the most ironic things. The tube owners didn't have to do shit. Didn't have to lift a finger. The surfers are pawns doing all their work. Not saying that tube site owners didn't fill up their tube at the start with old purchased vids (that's easy and cheap to do).

But YES, those full length movies ARE uploaded by surfers. And the surfer forums are full of thousands and thousands of threads dedicated to particular websites and models. And each thread has thousands of links where each surfer has uploaded complete scenes AND members areas and he then gets "credit" on the surfer forum.

And those forums have more traffic than any affiliate or "legit" website that posts on GFY.

I'm just talking the FORUMS have that traffic. You can imagine the traffic at Rapidshare, TBP, etc. etc. not to mention the illegit tubes.

The surfer is being openly and blatantly EDUCATED to download and upload by those forum owners. They openly ENCOURAGE and REWARD them for doing it.

That's why I can't believe how goddamn dumb it is for Review Sites to not lift a finger and make any kind of effort to educate surfers to NOT steal.

But I guess everyone is going to find out for themselves as this next year rolls in. Hopefully the govt. will step in sometime and accidentally save the adult industry by enacting some kind of law. In the meantime...I'm protecting my content. And CM's sales and rebills are SLAMMING! Wish I could say the same for the hundreds of programs I am an affiliate of.

And one last thing....

I don't just talk shit. I back it up. ANYBODY in this business that is in Las Vegas or visiting Vegas or here for Internext...I will SHOW you my numbers in detail. I'm not just theorizing. I actually DO protect my content AND our CM is kicking the shit out of other paysites because of it.

But all I get on GFY is arguing from people trying to tell me that we are screwing our members. Well gee....you'd think they would all quit wouldn't you? Instead of writing to tell me how much they enjoy the latest scene.

You see, HONEST members of a website are there for ENTERTAINMENT. To jerk off. To live a fantasy. It's the dishonest ones that get "angry" when they can no longer steal your stuff.

But I'm sure that won't make any sense to anybody here. Just like when I said to the review sites: "How much value does a paysite have that has the ENTIRE MEMBERS AREA AVAILABLE FOR FREE"

Well I don't know how the fuck anybody can see the value of that other than ZERO.

But I got trolled hard for trying to do something from within our own industry. So fuck it. Let 'em all continue to lose sales and rebills. And yes...I KNOW they are. I promote 212 programs in Stats Remote and another 157 wrapped up in one big CC Bill account.

I SEE with my own eyes what is happening to all the paysites sales and rebills. Eric can vouch for how long I've been doing this too. I didn't just start yesterday. I'm talking from experience and knowledge.

And that is 2 things that seem to have no bearing on GFY