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Originally Posted by Robbie
BINGO.
Zorgman, you need to visit the surfer forums. Your eyes will be opened.
That's one of the most ironic things. The tube owners didn't have to do shit. Didn't have to lift a finger. The surfers are pawns doing all their work. Not saying that tube site owners didn't fill up their tube at the start with old purchased vids (that's easy and cheap to do).
But YES, those full length movies ARE uploaded by surfers. And the surfer forums are full of thousands and thousands of threads dedicated to particular websites and models. And each thread has thousands of links where each surfer has uploaded complete scenes AND members areas and he then gets "credit" on the surfer forum.
And those forums have more traffic than any affiliate or "legit" website that posts on GFY.
I'm just talking the FORUMS have that traffic. You can imagine the traffic at Rapidshare, TBP, etc. etc. not to mention the illegit tubes.
The surfer is being openly and blatantly EDUCATED to download and upload by those forum owners. They openly ENCOURAGE and REWARD them for doing it.
That's why I can't believe how goddamn dumb it is for Review Sites to not lift a finger and make any kind of effort to educate surfers to NOT steal.
But I guess everyone is going to find out for themselves as this next year rolls in. Hopefully the govt. will step in sometime and accidentally save the adult industry by enacting some kind of law. In the meantime...I'm protecting my content. And CM's sales and rebills are SLAMMING! Wish I could say the same for the hundreds of programs I am an affiliate of.
And one last thing....
I don't just talk shit. I back it up. ANYBODY in this business that is in Las Vegas or visiting Vegas or here for Internext...I will SHOW you my numbers in detail. I'm not just theorizing. I actually DO protect my content AND our CM is kicking the shit out of other paysites because of it.
But all I get on GFY is arguing from people trying to tell me that we are screwing our members. Well gee....you'd think they would all quit wouldn't you? Instead of writing to tell me how much they enjoy the latest scene.
You see, HONEST members of a website are there for ENTERTAINMENT. To jerk off. To live a fantasy. It's the dishonest ones that get "angry" when they can no longer steal your stuff.
But I'm sure that won't make any sense to anybody here. Just like when I said to the review sites: "How much value does a paysite have that has the ENTIRE MEMBERS AREA AVAILABLE FOR FREE"
Well I don't know how the fuck anybody can see the value of that other than ZERO.
But I got trolled hard for trying to do something from within our own industry. So fuck it. Let 'em all continue to lose sales and rebills. And yes...I KNOW they are. I promote 212 programs in Stats Remote and another 157 wrapped up in one big CC Bill account.
I SEE with my own eyes what is happening to all the paysites sales and rebills. Eric can vouch for how long I've been doing this too. I didn't just start yesterday. I'm talking from experience and knowledge.
And that is 2 things that seem to have no bearing on GFY
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I honestly hope you don't stop talking or stop sharing your experience with us here on GFY, it's guys like you that have been here long enough to see the figures sway, that can lend credit to the fight of protecting our content.
I'm no ass kisser by any means, so those who may think that's going on here- WRONG!
I'm saying quite honestly that experience is knowledge & knowledge is power, it's time to harness the strength of knowledge and come up with some solutions!!!
Maybe legislation will take a hand in this- I hope to God they do! Then the law is on our side here, but until that time, it's up to those working in the biz to make the nessisary steps.
Brian storming, networking, and seeing where everyone stands on these is the first step I think?
How great would it be, to implement a LIST of those who are AGAINST PORN THEFT!!!
I think it was Kelli who mentioned in another thread: to 'have a black list...'
And someone pointed out the troubles that could cause with false accusations and such- very rightly so too.
So what about taking the same situation and reversing it instead?
A 'White List' if you will,
-a list of those who are opposed to porn theft, and can prove through their business dealings, that they make that stand in all aspects.
-a list of who we can buy from, sell to, affiliate ourselves with & we know they are 'Pro-Industry Approved' (Pro: not meaning professional, but for the benefit of paid porn and our bottom line, if you know what I mean?)
There's a lot of ideas coming out on these boards, and yeah some are good, some are meh..
but the point is we're having them and making some sudgestions.
A thousand ideas may emmerce before the right one is born and implemented to our cause, but as log as we're having these discussions and haveing thoughts, even the stupid ones, we can voice our experiences and ideas to find that solution...
No Robbie, don't stop talking!
There are more people reading this and learning from you than are posting here, look at the views compared to the number of posts on the board, you ARE reaching people and making your point.
I'm sure there are many who agree, but haven't let their own voices be heard for their own reasons.
Even though this board is protected from 'public view' there are still those in the industry who can read it and snub others for their opinions- right?
Keep the peace, don't make waves, etc...
I'm sure that's what alot of people are thinking when they see this!
But you are reaching them!!!!