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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
You said:
'christ called himself the lamb of god.'
i disputed that with fact, (showing John The Baptist call jesus the lamb of god,) but nowhere can you show me where christ called himself this, AS YOU CLAIM bro.
and you go off about symbolism. im trying to stay focused here.
;)
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Once again, you cannot really discuss the life of Jesus without going into symbolism...that's all the guy did was speak in metaphor.
No he did not come out and say..."I am the lamb of God," in so many words.
Do you not know what the last supper was?
We'll use a number of different books for the same story:
Beginning with Mark
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22While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take it; this is my body."
23Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, and they all drank from it.
24"This is my blood of the[2] covenant, which is poured out for many," he said to them. 25"I tell you the truth, I will not drink again of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it anew in the kingdom of God."
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There is symbolism whether you like it or not...he says this is my blood of the covenant.
Covenant:
: a usually formal, solemn, and binding agreement : COMPACT
2 a : a written agreement or promise usually under seal between two or more parties especially for the performance of some action b : the common-law action to recover damages for breach of such a contract
Matthew:
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26While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body."
27Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28This is my blood of the[2] covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it anew with you in my Father's kingdom."
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John:
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19And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me."
20In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.
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So do you not see the pattern here?
His blood that will be shed becomes the NEW COVENANT between man and God regarding the sacrificing of a lamb.
Now let's look at a few more scriptures.
1 peter 1: 19-20
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1 Peter 1
19but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. 20He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
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Isiah 53: 7
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He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
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There are references not just in the New Testament that refer to him as the lamb of God but in the Old as well.
Jesus summed it by this:
Matthew 5: 17
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Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
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There is nothing but symbolism and metaphor in the bible my young friend.
Draw from it what you will.