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Old 09-21-2009, 02:48 AM  
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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude View Post
While we're on the topic, what is your rationale and justification for shooting porn in countries where pornography is illegal?
Hell, it's illegal to shoot porn in Kentucky (and almost every other state), but that doesn't stop people from doing it. It's also illegal to drive your motorcycle on the sidewalk where I live, but everyone does that too. I generally like to live by the spirit of the law, rather than the letter of the law.

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Originally Posted by itto View Post
Why you assume there's some sort of rogue employee wanting to stalk the girls with that information is totally and i mean TOTALLY beyond me.

Is it because of the general paranoia and "wild west" attitude in the adult biz?
If this was mainstream, would you also act like this?
..What if your normal bank calls you up and asks for some papers, would you also ask for their employee's background / nda / etc?!

Don't get me wrong, i'm just trying to understand this...you do business, epoch does business. Your stuff is legit, theirs is.. they request some kind of proof, why not cooperate? That's a fucking standard way of doing business.
1) I'm saying it's not worth the risk. However, if there is no risk here, then lets all just post our IDs right here, along with our models, and everything will be just fine. No dirt bags in this business, right? Couldn't happen right? I mean, how could a company like Ibill steal millions from webmasters and remain in business today? Not possible right? Shit happens.

2) They need to verify those documents the same way any government agency would have to. Epoch is not above them.

3) If a bank called me and asked for my girlfriends ID, I would not give it to them. Actually, I would not even send them MY ID via email. I would go to the branch and deal with it.

4) If Epoch is legit, and I believe they are, they can get the docs the legit way, the same way the FBI would have to get them. What's the point of listing your 2257 custodian address if nobody has to follow the fucking rules to view the ID and documents?

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Originally Posted by TheDoc View Post
Is it hard for you people to believe that when you do business with others, they take on risk, for sure in situations like Epoch?

I can't see how any, real business person, is going to tell me that they can't see why epoch doesn't take on extreme risk, and probably should ask for this while doing spot checks and how they are in the rights to ask this.
Again with the risk. Do you know the risk that one of the models they want to see the ID of, took to make that video? Do you know how many years she will sit in a Cuban prison? Do you know the risk we took filming it? Not only for shooting porn in Cuba, but for going to Cuba in the first place (which alone can land you 7 years in an US prison)? Do you know we were arrested in Colombia a few days after shooting the other girl and I spent 3 days in a Colombian jail (eating old rice and water) while the Colombian police took their sweet time making sure the models were not minors? Sorry, but Epochs "risk" doesn't really make sympathetic towards them. Don't talk to me about risk, please. I take huge ones every day I leave my house to work.

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Originally Posted by d-null View Post
your avatar doesn't "fit" you for some reason, maybe I'm just not used to it yet
I agree. He needs to bring back the old one.

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Originally Posted by StinkyPink View Post

I am curious if this lamp you are so fond of has a genie in it by chance?
It's a few hundred years old, from India. Worth a LOT. It may have a genie inside, I've never looked. If you never hear from me again and Epoch disappears, you will know the answer.
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