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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
A contract to get me to evade law? What kind of contract would that be? I'm pretty sure the privacy law is above the contract. Billing company is not police, thats not their job.
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You are entering into a voluntary contract and if you can not complete your part it is your job not to enter into it. I do have a lot of Canadian models on my site and I can and will give out ID's. Privacy laws are simple to deal with. In your model release you can have the model sign off on the privacy issues. And yes anyone can voluntarily give up their right to privacy - see rules of entering many contests, if you win.
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Originally Posted by Deej
This all brings up a big question ive always had but never asked...
Say you have your own merchant account.
Why would you then take on a 3rd party processing? What do they bring to the table beneficially? Do they ensure transactions? do they ensure checks get sent? What are the pros of epoch and ccbill? Why dont people get their own merchant accounts?
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Some may use a 3rd party like netbilling to handle scrubbing and such. Others may add in ccbill and epoch to spread out the risks/charge backs/etc.
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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
I already use CCbill, and they do not ask. IT IS NOT THEIR JOB to police IDs, they have all made that clear by processing for "GF" sites. Their job is to provide 3rd party billing. So do it.
Exactly. They are a processor. THEY NEED TO PROCESS!!!
If they want to check IDs, they need to start with the GF sites and work down from there.
Perfect. Globill, Ibill, iMonde... all GONE. Lets say Epoch goes too. It could happen. What about my IDs? Who gets them? Where do they go at that point?
They said two models "appear fairly young."
The closest thing to young is one of them has braces.
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1. CCbill has asked for ID's in the very recent past. I know as I supplied them one. I would also guess if you did not supply the ID they would make you take down the model in question. Even Rand from Epoch said that, which I think is stupid as hell. I think they should suspend the account if they could not supply them. Perhaps give sites a couple chances just in case something did get lost, but if it happened each time a request came in, then suspend them until they could provide it.
You mention them closing up. OK sure and why dont you just get an agreement that it will be destroyed after viewing. I can understand your concern. Perhaps set up a time and day with Rand at epoch and do a live webcam chat, show the id on screen. Sure ya he could screen cap it but be realistic. Fuck I do not know I see your side too and I just feel your a bit more paranoid than me.
I know when CCbill asked for ours. We sent them the 3 they asked for. Had all identifiable info blocked out besides DOB and her picture.
At the same damn time I am sure that someone could totally alter an ID and send it in to any company and they would not even notice. It is not like they are holding the real ID. Hate to even admit this but I did it once when a model of mine who I knew for a fact was old enough was waiting for her ID to come in the mail (lost it) and wanted to do some live cam work for quick cash.