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Originally Posted by datatank
You are going to say goodbye to all your epoch rebills just for the sake of not showing a models ID?
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Look, I may be a lot of things, and not all of them pleasant, but one thing I do is take care of the people who work with me. If that means I have to lose a little money and change processors, so be it.
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies
Are you actually serious?
Who in the fuck wants the FBI or any other government agency poking around their business office is beyond me. I am all for standing your ground when you think there is something wrong, or unfair, but this situation is just crazy.
Call in the FBI to check docs instead of just handing them over to your billing company and defacto PARTNER IN BUSINESS?
Fucking unreal.
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Dude, I'm from the DVD world. Many of us have already been through inspections. It's no big deal if you have your house in order.
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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
Some of you don't see a difference in showing your own ID at bars and showing IDs of other people? You can do whatever you want with your ID, its your right, but that doesn't mean you can do the same with IDs that don't belong to you. I think epoch is trying to play the police here.
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Exactly. If they want to see MY ID, lets do it. That is MY call to make. It is NOT my call to show them the ID of my models.
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Originally Posted by XPays
you trust them to hold the credit card numbers of the members of your site, but not id's?
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It's not about that. It's about a potential employee using the information he receieves to stalk or harm the model. THIS IS PORN. There are some FREAKY fucking people around it. I don't trust anyone with the models IDs unless they are associated with law enforcement, and even then it's a risk, but its a risk you legally must take. But some dude at Epoch... not a chance. That guy will not be stalking a site member, should that guy turn out to be a nut job.
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Originally Posted by Rand
Why anyone would prefer to have the FBI knocking on their door instead of cooperating with their processor is beyond me.
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but I trust the FBI with my IDs. Well, not totally, but more than some guys sitting at the other end of an email, who all work in the porn business. This business draws some crazy people to it, and I just can't take that chance.
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Originally Posted by Deej
problem is epoch dosnt care about their profit loss with dwb and dwb dosnt care about his profit loss with epoch. so youre both willing to throw it away for policies and morals...
now which do you find more commendable... policy and profit or morals and safety of models.
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I stand by the people who work with me. They are the reason I work. I won't risk their safety for a second, even if I lose a little money over it. I can sleep at night knowing I lost money, I wouldn't be able to sleep if something happened to one of those girls because of something that happened with Epoch.
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Originally Posted by Deej
I dont think for one second that epoch is going to endanger one of DWB's models, but thats not for me to risk. its for him...
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Chances are there would be NO harm at all, as I hope everyone there is above board. But why take that chance when I don't have to? There are ALWAYS rouge employees out there and the porn industry seems to have more than most. It's just not worth the risk.