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Originally Posted by Rand
DWB - We are in business together. But we have a lot of interests to protect, not just yours or ours.
Our agreement with each other states our policies of what we will and will not process for and the terms that you agree to abide by. My guess is that any IPSP out there is going to request the same to protect their business as well. Your processor helps you to remain compliant so your site(s) do not escalate to the point of the FBI or VISA requesting documentation. It's part of why you use an IPSP.
If you want to discuss this Monday with our risk department we can do that.
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You can visit my place of business, for that content, listed on my 2257 compliance page, the same as the FBI or any other government agency has to do. Epoch is not above the government.
I welcome an FBI inspection, and do not fear it, as I have nothing to hide. I come from the DVD side of the industry and many of us have already been inspected by Chuck Joyner, back when they were doing inspections. He did it the correct way, as will your company, or you will not get the IDs your "Support Specialist" requires.
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Originally Posted by Rand
We are a well established billing company, going on fourteen years in this business. Why you believe we would jeopardize our operations over your site or anyone's make no sense to me.
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Indeed you are, and I am one of the largest producers, if not the largest, in all South East Asia, and have been for 11 years, going on 12. Why would I jeopardize my operations and the safety of my models over your 3rd party processing company, or anyone elses company, makes no sense to me.
How can you be so sure one of your employees does not have a malicious motive? One of the posts early in this thread leads to believe someone from your company was unethical during a cam chat. Maybe that is true, maybe it is not, but I WILL NOT jeopardize a models safety if there is ANY chance of a rouge employee you may not currently know about.
Like I said, you are not above a government agency. You can inspect my records the same as they have to, so long as you come with someone from law enforcement. If that is unacceptable to Epoch, please take it up with those who wrote the 2257 laws. I'm sure they will be more than happy to accommodate your business and change the law for you. Just tell them Visa wants them to do it. That works well for site compliance, I'm sure the law makers will buy it too.
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Originally Posted by Rand
My only suggestion is if you don't want to provide the requested documentations is to remove the models in question.
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Or, remove Epoch from our cascade. Unfortunately this seems to be the only option, as I know Epoch will not be visiting my place of records along side a government agency, or providing me with the IDs of every Epoch employee who will view these documents, as well as a signed document that makes Epoch fully responsible for ANYTHING that should come of this that is damaging, physically, mentally or legally to the models. But hey, if you are game and accommodate my personal privacy policy, lets do it! However, I'm not going to hold my breath, as I'm sure it would violate Epoch's employee privacy policy to provide me with that information.