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DWB - There is no one in this business that will argue with you about your completely justified intentions to protect your models. You are absolutely right to do everything within your power to ensure their safety and protect their privacy. On this point we completely agree.
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That's a start. However, unless you guys are going to give me YOUR IDs,
and sign a document that Epoch will assume ALL liability should something happen to my models due to this, including breaking the privacy laws within their own countries, then it's not going to happen. Though, I'm going to take a guess that you guys will not be doing this.
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we are obligated to do everything we can to ensure that the sites we process for produce content which is legal and abides by association rules. We are your connection to the banks and card associations who will not contact you directly if a question were to arise.
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I am obligated to do everything I can to ensure that the models I work with are safe and sound. I will not violate their safety, unless LAW ENFORCEMENT makes me do so. But, only during regular business hours, at the address listed on my 2257 compliance page. Why should Epoch get special treatment when the FBI has to follow the rules of inspection? Think about that for a minute.
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Epoch passes an annual audit to ensure the security of our services. All employees who work in our risk-management and legal departments are all qualified, professional individuals who've been with us for at least five years.
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Five whole years? Sure, I'll trust them then, why not?
I've been doing this for 11 and never once had a single problem, as I am a professional, working in the online and DVD markets. I'm qualified too. In fact, I'm a hell of a lot more qualified that your employees.
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I invite you to come down to Epoch's offices and meet each of them and decide for yourself if you believe anyone has any mislead intentions. I'll even take you to lunch.
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I've been there and your team took me to lunch, a little Italian place just around the corner from your office. It was damn good too. Thank you. But that doesn't mean I would give my models IDs to them.
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I can assure you that any identification request is legitimate regardless of previous approval or length of time the content has been online.
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I can assure you all of my models IDs are legit.
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We don't ask for 2257 documentation for fun, we do it because we are obligated to do so for the protection of everyone involved.
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Then you won't mind also giving me the IDs of everyone who will be viewing my models IDs, along with a signed document that Epoch will assume ALL liability should something happen to my models due to all of this? I wouldn't ask for such a thing for fun, I do it because I am obligated to do so for the protection of everyone I work with.
This is pretty plain and simple. You are asking for something that you have no need to see. If Visa wants to see it, they can get with the FBI and visit the address listed, during normal business hours. You can come with them if you want. Those are the rules, and Epoch should play by them too. You are not above the law.
You have your Privacy Policy and I have mine. I'm not going to violate mine in order to please someone who is not affiliated with a government agency. Your Privacy Policy protects members, mine protects models. The safety of my models comes before the employees who have been working with at Epoch for 5 whole years. The same as you will not release your employees data to me, I'm not going to release my models to you.