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Old 08-15-2009, 08:54 PM  
gideongallery
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Originally Posted by DonovanTrent View Post
If a lawyer gave you some of the advice you spout in this thread and you paid for it, you might want to consider shopping around elsewhere for future advice. As well, if you really got some of this from a lawyer, remember that you're only getting an interpretation that they're prepared to argue in court, which could be very different than what the judge might think.

In actuality, though, I smell an armchair lawyer.
look back at my post

i mentioned the defense that i used when sympatico warned me that i was violating copyright law by downloading lost from the torrrent sites.

That arguement was posted here BEFORE (it was made long time before that post too) the timeshifting in a cloud ruling ever hit the courts. Way before that ruling was upheld by the supreme court.

i am not egotistical enough to argue i have the skills to know enough to actually do that.


my lawyers advice has a proven success record
unlike the lawyers who are so incredible incompentent that they would actually let their clients argue that none of the fair use rights established by the courts (backup, timeshifting, formatshifting) and all have the common characteristic of making a complete unabridged copy have any validity

so that they can claim that "torrents/newsgroups/tubes are to profit from their fraudulant use of copyrighted works in their entirety?"

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Originally Posted by CrkMStanz View Post
so how are torrents / newsgroups / tubes (just the illegal stuff) / whatever covered by this clause in your deluded brain...

are they posting full un edited works for criticism?

comment?

news reporting?

teaching?

scholorship?

research?

parody?

anything at all? besides making sales - to profit from their fraudulant use of copyrighted works in their entirety?

enlighten me here - how do you use this section to justify their actions?
how do you equate what is being done, with what should be fair use as defined in your quote?

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When he start making arguements that ultimately lose out i will fire him and hire the guy across the table. Until then i think i will stick with the guy who is not completely oblivious of all the court established fair use rights.
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