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Old 08-14-2009, 02:11 PM  
will76
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Originally Posted by AVNChris View Post
Wake up call - right now we are not making almost any profit.

Thus the reasoning behind these threads.
Exactly! the reason behind these threads is so YOU can try to make more profit. lol

you wake up or better yet stop trying to fool everyone here. If you not making any money from it then don't do it. who is making you have these events each year ? No one. Everyone is already saying there are too many shows and you admitted that yourself. So if it's not making you any money, and there are too many shows then step aside and stop having the show.

The reason behind these threads are so you can get free feedback from everyone else and share none of your own, so you can try to make YOUR show better. Making your show better means making you and the company you work for more money.

So it all comes down to money... so don't feed me the wake up call bullshit.

My point was why doesn't AVN or Xbiz do the show for NO PROFIT. Still make it better... but instead of just trying to make it better so you can make more profit, if it gets better and has more people it could then be cheaper for everyone who attends if AVN/ XBiz held these conventions for no profit.

Is AVN / XBIZ's business conventions or do they make money from other stuff? The name recognition alone that AVN gets from holding the show should be "profit" enough to do the show. As long as all of their expenses are paid it cost them nothing to do the show and the benefit a lot from the branding and focus put on their company because their name is all over it. To prove how much value that is how much do you charge pussy cash to pay to have their names on the badges, banners on the walls, menus and all that shit. I am sure it is tens of thousands of dollars, AVN gets all of that expsure for free. So at the very least if you still want to do the convention for profit then you should charge yourself to have "AVN" mentioned in relationship to the convention.

I know its all about money you guys want to put these conventions together to make money from it. You all are obviously greedy and since there are so many damn shows a year and as long as you can squeeze blood out of the turnip and make "some" money you guys will never work together and keep on having them. It is funny and sad to see the way you all act AVN/Xbiz over this shit. One trying to out last the other hoping their rival will bow out first so the other one standing can get all the scraps left over. Not to mention how the several other shows fit into all of this.

I would love to see how many of you still tried to put on a show if there was no profit to be made from them.... and if you say you would still do it you are lieing because if you had an attitude that wasn't all about the buck you would be much more likely to work together and reduce the number of shows.
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