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Old 08-13-2009, 08:17 PM  
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Originally Posted by ztik View Post
If they are running around through the fucking desert with no water its their own fault

come the fuck on
your view is simplistic


picture a scenario, young guys in a poor guatemalan village get phone calls from relatives that are working two jobs and 16 hour days in the u.s. and sending back money to support their families, the coyotes have connections and can get them to the u.s., but the cost is high, thousands of dollars, they are willing to take the chance and huge risks in crossing multiple borders and relying on shady coyotes for the arrangements and travel across the borders, some of the coyotes will work on credit, when they arrive at their destination they may owe $5000 or more, which will have to be paid out of their small wages, so they travel from their small village to the border where they may wait for hours to meet up with an arranged coyote, who will rush them into a vehicle, probably crammed and with no ventilation, where they may travel for hours, then they might be dumped off at a remote part of the border and dumped off and told to RUN, across dangerous rocky or desert paths, where they hope to not be seen and hope that the coyote that is supposed to pick them up will be there when they get there, perhaps after a few hour walk/run, then they are crammed into another vehicle and driven for hours to the next destination, then they may have to walk for a day or two, hoping not to get robbed or harrassed by corrupt officials, then another vehicle, then another run across dangerous land, probably without any supplies, where they are driven by hope for the chance to work hard and earn money to better their life and the life of their families..... they might get very sick on the trip, some might die, and when they do get to their destination they might face more problems as life as an illegal holds stresses of its own and some are not lucky to find work that treats them well

these are people, like you and I, born onto this earth..... the arbitrary borders weren't always there, and we are all immigrants or descendents of immigrants, who came based on arbitrary decisions of legislators or lack thereof

just my it's like leaving food out on a table with hungry people and charging someone with theft if they eat some, the economic realities and the american desire for cheap labor to do the menial types of jobs makes the situation one where you are inviting them in a way, at the very least dangling the irresistable carrot and then some are shocked when they come
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