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Old 07-22-2009, 12:18 AM  
Ronzo
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Originally Posted by Relentless View Post

A closer analogy would be:

Can you imagine taking 1,000 people (including children, the homeless, people who don't speak any English, the elderly and a handful of people with money in their pockets) on buses from all over the globe to the world's largest shopping mall and having none of them use the ONE specific gumball machine YOU recommended to them which is at the East end of the mall beside millions of other potential points of sale?
The gumball story is a cute one, but it's not all that enlightening. Anybody who's been pushing porn for awhile knows there are underage people surfing the adult net, and that there are probably more people out there WITHOUT credit cards than there are with them, and also there are those people who wouldn't buy porn if their life depended on it.
That's basic, fundamental stuff.

The point of my post was missed. And, it's simply that there are two sides to every story. The original question put forth in this thread is, "Are sponsors shaving?"... to which another poster responded that shaving is mostly a non-issue and the real problem is that adult affiliates expect too much.

I don't care what you're selling or where you're selling it at... if you send a "partner" a thousand referrals or leads, and that partner reports back to you in some form or manner that they could do nothing with your referrals that resulted in even one sale... then it's perfectly reasonable for you to question, suspect or doubt the integrity of your partner. This is the core controversy that has revolved around the shaving issue since it was first raised way back when.

It has nothing to do whatsoever with making comparisons between which sponsors provide the most return per unique... regardless of whether they're shaving or not. Who the hell wants to waste their time on that exercise if they suspect they're dealing with anyone who's less than honest? The point is... do your sponsors... your so called partners... cheat? Do they steal from you? From strictly an integrity standpoint, do they live up to what they promised in exchange for your hard work, time and effort to send them traffic? If not, there's really no point... and in the long run... nothing worthwhile to be gained by patronizing a sponsor who shaves. A shaving sponsor should not be tolerated on any level. It's only going to serve to perpetuate a very unsavory business practice. Rather than look the other way because I'm happy with their per unique return, I'd rather figuratively kick a sponsor's ass from here to Timbuktu and let the whole world know they shave if I have proof. Per unique comparisons should only be used to evaluate honest sponsors... not those who shave or are suspected of shaving.
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