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Old 07-14-2009, 05:32 PM  
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Originally Posted by SomeCreep View Post
I agree, there is a percentage of surfers who continue to buy porn memberships even after they've been exposed to tube sites. That does not negate the fact that there is a much larger percentage of surfers who stop buying porn memberships once they've been exposed to tubes. How else would you explain the drastic secular decline in our industry? It's the tubes.

Your point seems to be that there is money to be made from tubes and I agree with that. My point is that overall, for every 1 dollar generated by these tube sites, the industry as a whole loses 10 dollars.

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Originally Posted by xxxjay View Post
I disagree. If the graphs only show the trends, they tell the truth.

My org point was that using Alexa to gauge tubes vs tgps doesn't tell you anything of value. Not how many sales, money, if they suck or not..

Adding to that, using Alexa and thinking something is going down is traffic, isn't wise. The traffic graphs you see are crap. Alexa "is a browser plugin" that is "dropping" on US/UK/AU/CA sources and increasing on Asian sources.

What you see happening in tubes can be duplicated, faked... XXXjay - Are you going to tell me nobody has tried to sell you traffic to fake your Alexa ranking? Difference is, tubes aren't faking it.. but the "reason" it can be faked, is why they look so holy large.


SomeCreep to your comment on the 1 to 10... At this point, you are correct it is prob something like that. But that's only because we can't reach the people at mass levels.

Things would be very different if the biggest of tubes openly shared the traffic and owners uploaded big videos... things would work more like a gallery posts do, just the rules would be different.
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