| Pretty solid posts in this thread :P 
 "In the end you'll have great RoR coders, great PHP coders, bad RoR coders and bad PHP coders. It all depends on the individual."
 
 I couldn't agree more... that's why when I look at a language I look at its cost and efficiency.  If I can develop in any language I want and write clean code in any language I choose.  Why would I select something that doesn't perform as well and/or costs more? That just doesn't make good business sense.
 
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