Quote:
Originally Posted by ebus_dk
I never experianced the same when pushing sites that used epoch. The epoch admins I have had access to, never gave me a indication that would support that claim either (its 4 years ago I had a epoch access - keep that in mind)
I'm not claiming what you say isent true, I'm just letting you know what my personal experiance is, and what people around me have experianced
Bottom line is, ccbill bases programs simply stopped converting for me during the last half of 2008. I kept CCbill in the loop and belived when they kept telling us "we have something new in the pipeline"
Well, I dont know what pipeline that is, but I havent seen it yet
|
Sooooo much has changed in the last 4 years with these guys.. 4 years ago, you didn't 'need' alt processors, it was just nice to have them. Today, you need them.
Epoch is the decline masters these days. If your ratios suck, chances are extremly high that epoch is on a decline streak. BUT... they still put SOOOO many good transactions through, that it makes up for in the long run.
Ccbill has less throughput, but the loyalty wise ccbill wins hands down. Members like to join through ccbill, so give them that option and many will use it.
Either way though, the same WF card, gets declined on them both. Just for some reason, epoch "attempts" to processes damn near double the transactions. I don't understand that.
I assume those changes you are talking about is with the join pages. It's bullshit chain pulling... We have been trying to get those join pages changed for 4-5 years now, even gave them new ones, fully ready, and I'm not the only one.