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Originally posted by Dawgy
this is getting ridiculous. ive held back as long as i can, its time for me to say what i want to say.
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held back? we have been talking about this since the first day you started being late on payments, which is over a year ago. so the twisted *facts* you said below is what you didnt say to my face as you held back?
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Originally posted by Dawgy
if i had the 15k i might give it to you, but i dont have it.
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in december you have promised me you were gonna start paying me in smaller amounths, like $500 every 2 weeks, which was fine with me. i didnt ask you for the whole 15k all at once, even though it is so long overdue.
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Originally posted by Dawgy
and honestly im not that excited to be paying for 6 weeks of child porn circle jerk traffic that i didnt want. i told you numerous times to stop sending me traffic and you didnt. i told u several times that the traffic was coming from cp cj sites and instead of dealing with those people sending you/me the shit, u gave me a script to hide the reffering url from my sponsors. so no wonder my sponsors stopped converting, cuz cp cj surfers dont buy anything but cp. i think you need to get a grip on whos using your script. your excuse "its a free script, what can i do" is bullshit. get some control.
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first, get some facts straight ok?
you have told me to pause or decrease the traffic a couple times for short periods, and every single time i did what you asked me to do. i never forced you an amount you didnt ask for. at the end you asked me to completely stop the traffic and these were your almost exact words: "please stop sending traffic because i cannot risk owing you any more money". At that point i stopped it within like 24-36 hours or something.. this a fact.
we were both filtering the unwanted traffic, and i contacted the site owners when i found their contact info.. yes, i have no control over their sites and i did my best on blocking them.. besides i was giving you the traffic for the half price of what i sold to other people and you're still talking about the bad quality of traffic. i even dropped the price half way through to help you.
about you losing money and not converting the traffic:
it was coming from thousands of different websites and you suddenly started telling me you stopped converting overnight.. and you looked for the reason on me and on my traffic... the quality of the traffic cannot possibly change overnigt, i told you thousand times.. how come you didnt suspect your sponsors as much as you suspected me? i dont get it.. you were using sponsors like ifriends and you sure as hell know about the bad experiences some people had with them and you still wanna blame me that you lost money on this?
you even told you were gonna try other sponsors and start "gambling" with the traffic hoping start making profit again. its my fault i let you do that and stay behind on payments, but it doesnt justify your situation.
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Originally posted by Dawgy
i tried to just ignore the fact that i was getting fucked and work out a way to pay you but the money hasnt been availble and im tired of trying to find ways to pay you for something i didnt want and didnt ask for. if the traffic had been good tgp clicks like we agreed on in the beginning, not from asshole russians using your free script to run childporn CJ sites, id feel a lot more obligated to pay you, and would have the money anyway, because the sponsors would have kept converting.
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you never told me such reasons for being late on payments.
maybe you were getting fucked in terms of losing money but you cannot blame me into this. i only blame myself for letting you keep playing with the traffic even though i knew you were losing money.. but then again i never forced you to do so.. you asked for it, you agreed to buy more and more... it is not true that i sent you traffic when u asked me not to.. if i have been late on pausing it once or twice, it was a matter of hours or a day, which doesnt come anywhere close to $15k worth of traffic. you were 2 months behind on payments!
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Originally posted by Dawgy
maybe you need the money for school or whatever, but until i get a job and/or get back into webmastering, the money wont be there.
as for you kocur26, i dont know who you are, but ive never stolen 30k or any amount from anyone. you stating this as if its some kind of fact is borderline slander and i dont appreciate it.
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i dont know him either.
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Originally posted by Dawgy
all this being said, im done with this. if i somehow magically come into some cash ill work something out with lane, but until then im working my ass off to get my life back together and thats all i can do. but i will not debat this or anything else on a public board. im sorry your icq messages didnt reach me, but that isnt exactly the most reliable way to reach me. you have my email and i think even my phone number, so dont try to pretend i was ignoring you.
by the way, i am not available 24/7 on GFY... i am not a board whore, i have a life and i am trying to work as much as possible, not hover on boards all day.
bye bye
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i dont have your phone#.
i added you to my buddy list on gfy, and i bumped this thread only every time i saw you online there.. you do post here everyday and thats why i expected you to see it since my icq messages magically disappeared even though it worked thousand times before when we used to talked there..
i talked to you face to face on Internext, remember? i even hung out with you there for a while even though i was surrounded with gay people instead i could be hanging out with pornstar chicks (no offense there).. you have told me to send you my payment info after the show and you were gonna start paying, remember that too?.. i even gave you my paypal info again a while ago.. but i havent heard a thing from you since then..
in short, you have agreed to pay me... i even agreed you could do that in smaller amounts over time.. if you dont keep these promises, do you think i am supposed to leave you alone... if i get the feeling you are hiding from me, i am not supposed wonder whats your intension?
i expect you to start paying dawgy but its not like i'm pointing a gun in your head.. i have waited over a year now. imagine how someone else would react in my situation.. i've been extremely nice to you about this.
be a man, pay it up. dont hurt your reputation.