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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
The whole argument that harvesting crops kills more animals than eating meat is false, has been proven so repeatedly, and was put forth as anti-vegetarian propaganda.
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hogwash , anyone with a brain can figure it out with a calculator. show me where it has been disproven . I hope your stats dont count on missing wood mice for your numbers.
has anyone ever seen vegetables with bugs, can you guess how many would be on a huge field , can you guess how man bugs and rodents are killed with pesticides and rodenticides ? does any sane person think you could even compare the amount of bugs and rodents killed to cows and chickens lol
let me guess animals killed for vegetables arent really animals they are feelingless , brainless animals with no memory or ablity to feel ?
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
Not to mention, produce undergoes almost no processing once it is picked until it gets to your store. If hundreds of millions of rabbit sized animals were being killed during the harvest, it would be a common occurrence to find clumps of hair, bone fragments, blood, and other remains in your produce. But you never do.
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lol thus no animals are killed. I hope your not laying too much weight on that lol, i cant think of ANY vegetable that wouldnt be sized and washed and in that process animal parts are removed, but dont believe me go ask any farmer.
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
Smokey, do you have a pet dog, have you ever owned a pet dog?
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yes
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
Let's say I like the taste of dog so I come by your house, take your dog
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umm lol you and what army may i ask ?
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
and bring him to slaughter house. Once there, he would watch 50 other dogs brutally slaughtered while he waited in line. Once it was his turn, he would be strung up by his hind legs upside down, his throat slit, and he would slowly die as the blood drained from his body as he moved down the assembly line. Alone, confused, and frightened, that's how your dog would die.
Would that be OK with you?
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umm no..
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Or is there a difference between your pet dog and a cow, or a pig, or a chicken?
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well quite a few , frstly i suppose is that a dog is raised to be a pet , cows,pigs and chickens are raised to eat. Secondly , cows, pigs and chickens supposedly taste alot better than dog ( thats the most important part ). Would i kill wild dogs if they tasted great ? yup
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
Meat eaters can rationalize all they want, but they are removed from the slaughter and gross inhumane treatment so they pretend it isn't happening or doesn't effect them.
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kinda like vegetarians are, when animals are painfully and brutally killed for their food, unlike cows and chickens that are killed with thought given to doing it as quickly and as painless as possible.
Do you know that when crows eat certain pesticides or bugs that have they burn from the inside out slowly and painfully until they die ? do you know they spray them all over the veggies you find at the supermarket ? did you know alot of the vegetables in american supermarkets are grown in HUMAN and of course cow/chicken/pig sewage ?
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
Can any of us live a perfect life where we don't cause harm to any other living creature? Of course not. But we can limit our negative impact.
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yes but not eating meat doesnt limit that on its own
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
Not eating meat limits that negative impact on innocent creatures who would otherwise needlessly suffer inhumane and brutal treatment.
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as i have shown and anyone can figure out no it doesnt , you just kill MORE of different creatures for your food and pretend because you dont see their big shiny eyes on peta commercials it doesnt happen.
