Originally Posted by CDSmith

All the swinger couples I've known all say that it's still cheating if their partner goes behind their back and fucks someone. Every one of them still has certain rules.

And the really interesting thing is that every couple I've ever known that did the open marriage or swinger lifestyle are all broken up, every one of them. Several of them due to crossing of lines or breaking of rules, all of it boils down to trust issues. Sorry, the picture perfect ideal permissive picture you're attempting to paint has major flaws.

And just because someone promotes adult, that doesn't automatically mean they must adopt a lifestyle that reflects what they promote. I promote about two dozen fairly kinky fetishes that I myself have zero interest in trying much less becoming.

But maybe there is some hypocrisy there, I don't know. But in this one instance I don't really care. I can promote all manner of lewdness and loose morals but in my private life I'm a one-woman kind of guy who prefers a woman I can trust. If one guy isn't enough for her she's free to get lost and find a guy who doesn't mind other guys pounding his woman.

By the way those open marriage/swinger people I mentioned I've known seem just as insecure as anyone, in some cases moreso. Several struck me as incredibly selfish as well. No thanks.