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Old 04-05-2003, 07:03 PM  
TheFLY
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Join Date: Jan 2001
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Originally posted by hybrid
First of all, fuck choker and his whole program.

It's like watching with disdain at the modern street gangs looting the liquor stores and gas stations, knowing it'll be a valid source of income if you participated while wishing constantly to do it like the REAL gangsters did it back in the 20's.

Rackateering, laundering, having a squeeze on the neighborhood.

You have to understand that starting out as a bottom feeder is respectable only if your path is with heart. If you believe in who you're working for.

Does this make sense?

And for the record, there's a big difference between showing someone the ropes and "giving away free traffic".
Ok no disrespect meant. That's how we used to let somebody into the circle back in those days... If we saw somebody had potential and a good sense for design/concept/work ethic + I would always favor someone with scripting abilities because they could pump out 100's of galleries instead of dicking around with a couple on this freehost and a couple on that freehost -- knowing those unscripted people was a real waste of time because they just sucked and they were always getting 404'd... You had to seek out the nerds... That is my advice to you then hybrid -- seek out the nerds -- make friends with the guys that really POWER this industry... You know why oxcash is so big -- all the foundation was there in oldschool links sites -- sublimedirectory a big TGP that just went straight for bookmarks -- they didn't even bother trading much -- sublime was all word of mouth -- i had some guy in my class one day tell me about sublime directory and I knew that site must have been hot but we never needed to work with them because they were doing their own thing... They weren't really trade friendly... but they were actually coding like mini-TGP's -- exactly the same shit that Choker is doing right now only this was YEARS ago -- so you know that those oxcash guys are sharp... but the blade only gets sharper and sharper in this biz as it pierces through the masses and I'll tell you the jump is so high now to break in big into this biz -- because the real cutting edge stuff involves HARDCORE HARDCORE programming -- we're talking about custom bots, messaging bots, chatroom bots -- this is REAL HACKING -- you are fucking hacking into the protocols of foreign message systems that you shouldn't even have access to... That's where the money is at... in hacking. You can't get your traffic the easy way anymore -- you have to hack for it -- and that is how all the advertising is being done these days seriously... that and word-of-mouth and private deals that go on behind the scenes and you will never be up there because those friendships are already established and these people at the top don't need you to make waves... so unless you are a fucking awesome hacker that did shit like hack the FBI BBS in the 80's because you were bored... give it up... if you aren't already a programmer dork -- you never will be one... it's HARD HARD very HARD work to be a hacker and you spend endless days in front of a PC with zits all over your face and no sleep and you jerk off to god aweful porn and eat pizza and don't shower -- you think I'm kidding but its' true all the real hackers are like that and believe me they suffer but believe me it pays off in the long run and it's because of these "nerd" friendships that I made early in this game is because I'm still making it in this biz... So my only advice to new people in this biz is the following...

produce some really unique content that will get that "word of mouth" traffic -- that's the only think you can do to break into this biz now!!!! UNIQUE CONTENT. There I said it. But you will need to pay the models and be a first class pimp -- the average joe will have to look at your cock and your fucking abilities and be like holy shit this guy is the fucking mack daddy and I'm going to jerk off to this site all day long... Look at OXcash they just find stunt dicks... but that's bullcrap... if you are webmaster ala johnholes and you can code the shit yourself and put together a paysite of you fucking a lot of chicks you will be making TONS of money -- look at brunoB -- all you need is a lot of hoes and a lot of fucking and some adult industry connections and that's it! you are a made man. You just have to work hard at producing content... not only working hard at FUCKING but working hard at uploading movies and compressing that crap and all those boring mechanical chores...
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