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Old 04-02-2009, 01:53 PM  
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Kindly show me where I have slammed anybody who was anti-gun. Beyond that, a gun is an inanimate object. It does not have a mind of it's own and it's not an animal. It is a tool which is 100% harmless on it's own. It will not act sweet one minute then shoot somebody the next. It will not turn on it's owner, a child, or another gun. Guns are controlled by others, not themselves. They do not thirst for blood and it in not in their nature to attack, fight, or kill.

Some of what you have to say may be very true...But again, the very study quoted in that initial video states that pits own a 21% share in human deaths from dog attacks.

Yes, poodles and other kick dog types do bite, but they do not have what it takes to rip apart the head of a 5 year old.



Or a horse.



And the argument of how sweet everybody says their pit is...Well, that's just fucking dumb. How many serial killers have neighbors who said they were the perfect neighbor?

Here's an example of that:

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The dog rarely barked. He never growled, and his teeth - until a vicious attack Saturday night - had been reserved for chewing food, his owners say.

Chocolate - a caramel-colored pit bull a little more than a year old - was one of the most tranquil dogs Kenneth and Melissa Garrison had until, unprovoked, he snapped and nearly bit the nose off the couple's 1-year-old son.

Two days after the attack, sitting in the living room where their child's blood stained the carpet, the Garrisons were at a loss to explain Chocolate's actions, which left their son hospitalized for a night. Half of Jadyn Garrison's face was covered in a red scab yesterday, but doctors predict he will make a full recovery and not need surgery, the family said.

"Had we seen any signs that the dog was violent, he would have never came here," Melissa Garrison said.
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Try to convince me all you like but facts are facts. I hated pit bulls before my dog was almost killed by 2 of them. Now you think I'm going to change my mind?

My fiance had a half lab half pit mix. I knew the dog since it was a puppy but I would never even let it in my home. When we moved in together she had to give him up. Not one single shelter would take the dog unless she signed papers understanding that they would put it down immediately. People who run shelters typically love dogs so why was every shelter, within a 100 mile or so radius, be against taking in a pit mix? These people are dog experts who have dealt with pits and other breeds for years. What are your qualifications?

I've was bitten by 2 dogs in my childhood. My own families Cocker Spaniel and some little runt dog that lived down the street. In both instances I did something to provoke the bite. The first bite didn't even draw blood, the second one was on my earlobe and required a few stitches. Although both were very minor, they were still painful for a child. I was never mad at the dogs for my own stupidity......I've never heard of 2 Cocker Spaniels dragging a 7 month old baby out and tearing it apart. Have you?
i guess you are having a comprehension problem. i never said or insinuated that you slam people who like guns. i know for a fact that you love guns, i have seen your pictures, you have an awesome collection. my point is that with guns you advocate personal responsibility for the owners. it's the same thing. a gun in the wrong hands or a dog in the wrong hands is the same thing. any dog, not just a pit bull.

if you really think that pitbulls thirst for blood you're a fucking moron. plain and simple. a dog is just a dog, it learns its personality the same way people do, through experience and the people around it.

and as for these shelters, i have no idea what weird ass backwards state you live in, but every shelter here loves pitbulls and touts the breed as one of the best and most loyal you can own. the fact of the matter is that you're letting a media perpetuated stereotype control your perception. how many dog attacks do you think don't make the news everyday? pit bull is a hot word, and as the video also mentioned (to reference the 21% statistic) there are a large number of breeds that are mistaken for pit bulls on a daily basis. how much of that 21% is actually APBT or staffordshire bull terriers? and what about the other cross section of those statistics. as i sad, i myself have been on the receiving end of a black lab attack. i bet that happens quite often but doesn't get the buzz that a headline with "pit bull" in it.

this is all cyclical. before it was pits rottweilers were the breed to fear. before rotties it was german shepherds. every 10 - 15 years the "hot" dog changes that people should run for cover from. it's nothing more than hype and hysteria, and honestly i am disappointed to see that you would buy in to it. you have always seemed to be a reasonable guy, but i guess you are just as susceptible to being brainwashed as any other joe shmoe out there.

as for my qualifications, i have nothing official except being a dog lover all my life. interacting with hundreds of dogs through the course of regular day to day outside activities, and having MANY friends who have owned pit bulls. as well as all the research i put in to the breed before adopting one. i admit, i too was skeptical about adopting a pit with an unknown history from a shelter, but now that i have i am so happy that i did because i honestly could not ask for a better dog.

and while i haven't heard of of any cocker spaniels mauling anyone lately i certainly have heard of labs, mutts, min pins, and a host of other breeds that have had their fair share of mauling stories. so if you go by strictly what the news is reporting today to get the sensationalistic headlines views you're basing your opinion on erroneous information.

punish the deed and the irresponsible owners. not the breed.
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