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Old 04-02-2009, 03:56 AM  
CarlosTheGaucho
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In simple words why does your method fail. Or more to the point why has it failed so far. Because it has failed.
I'm lost, I don't understand these simple words

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The cost of driving more traffic is so high today and the return so low the money for it has to come from somewhere else.
Where? what are you talking about?

Why would it be high, with an average conversion and paying 50 pct. commission I can get affiliate traffic for 4 c per 1000 uniques, which broker can offer this to me?

Which broker can offer me 1k for 4c that will convert below 1:500 ?

What are you reffering to? And what is that "somewhere else"? expand please

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The most likely place is from the content, quality and quantity. Plus you have to build and run your sites to the demands of those driving traffic and not the demands of customers.
On a revshare? That's a bunch of non sense Paul - NONSENSE, listen to me

On a revshare I'm a PARTNER with the one that sends traffic to me, therefore two basic requirements:

a) make it convert

b) make them stay as long as possible to get as much $ in average per sign up as possible

Cause that way we BOTH will make more money

What should be wrong with that? Answer me for Christ's sake

Listen to me Paul


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Once we started down that road we were always at risk of people adapting a system that does not rely on driving thousands of people to get a few sign ups. To continue down that road without fixing what we have is not going to work. Because the money you invest in "traffic" has to profit long term.
I tried to give you a real answer but you'll still repeating the same narrow minded statement over and over again..

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To just keep saying "more traffic" is pointless unless you know the profit and loss on "more traffic" and that so many people ignore today.
Sure, and that's something we can agree on, cause idiocy and dumbness is the main cause of the problems.

And there's no "business" and there's no "industry" and there's no "easy answer"

Once again - marketing 101:

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho View Post

How about this:

a) The product (much better word than "content")

b) the traffic

c) the competition

d) the legal regulation

etc.

are ALL PARTS of the environment where you do your MARKETING, where you try to sell your stuff, where you try to make money


From the very first idea you have till the moment, when you count dollars and stats and think of ways, how to improve things and how to gain more edge..

All These things are instantly and intensely affecting YOUR returns!

Ok, Where are we now?

Let's take one after another:

The product:

Mainly shitty over saturated content / in many cases questionable billing practices etc.

The traffic

More educated traffic with less potential than ever

The competition

Many will do anything to fuck you over, and they do it, and it affects everyone's ratios

The regulation

Practically non existing legal environment, apart from a couple old school pervs getting locked down for being too perv on camera

That you'll make the a) or how you call that "content" excellent doesn't change much in the grand scheme of things!

Why?

Because you will STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH the b) c) and d)!


Therefore you can't preach such bullshit that "making the content better" and "giving better customer satisfaction" will have any major effect or any effect at all while there's still b, c and d in the game.

Ok everythiing is connected with everything,

a wouldn't exist without c, b wouldn't exist without c, c wouldn't be allowed without d etc.

But please stop to preach the "great content for customers" evangelium as the magical cure to the adult industry, pussies so sharp that cocks get harder and harder and everyone starts to pay again - that won't work!

This is a systemic problem, and the solution therefore has to be systemic.

If you shoot 10 HD scenes with uberpussy and make 3 pct. more on retention doesn't mean that the oberdude from Austria running Redtube will not sign up and steal it from you and fuck up your rates to twice worse then they were.

See my point?
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