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Old 03-28-2009, 05:59 PM  
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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat View Post
He's right to an extent... Europeans often share some different values than Americans , but their peace and freedom and security are strongly based on the partnership with the US and not enough Europeans want to remember this.

Let's say it like this - all the current little wars the US is engaged in or wants to get engaged, might be pointless and harmful, but if there was ever a real threat to Europe.. or to world peace... (e.g from Russia, China) then "world's" safety would strongely depend on the US again.. the European military is a joke nowadays... in fact there's no European military.

Let me state again, I do not advocate the current US wars or attitude, but if there was ever a REAL threat, then more likely than not, the US would be the needed to ensure Europe's safety indeed.
That isn't actually true. The biggest danger to Europe was always Europe itself.

Countries in the European Union have a total defense budget of about 300 billion USD a year. China's defense budget is 70 billion USD, and Russia's defense budget is about 50 billion USD. And since the EU has a combined GDP of around 17 trillion USD (compared to 14 trillion for the US, 3 trillion for China, and 1.3 trillion for Russia), it easily has the economic power to survive a prolonged conflict.

No country in the world has the military and economic power to successfully invade Europe.
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