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kane · 03-27-2009, 03:38 AM

This is just my opinion:
1)Does the Republican party appeal to the less educated / more dogmatic thinking / more ignorant class of the US society?
I don't think it does any more than the democrats appeal to the lesser educated liberals. For me the main difference is that the democrats have convinced a group of people that they can't exist without the governments help while the republicans have managed to convince an entire group of people to vote against their own best interests (from a financial standpoint). If you look over the last 28 years (since Reagan won in 1980) we have had 20 years of Republicans in the white house and 8 years of democrats. During that time we also had 16 years where the republicans owned the senate and 6 years where they owned the senate, house and white house. During this time the average annual income in the country has gone up $9,000 per year (adjusted to today's dollar) of that $7,500 came during the 8 Clinton years and the other $1500 is spread out across the three republicans. It is pretty clear that if you make very little money it is in your best interest (financially speaking) to vote democrat. They are more likely to give you a tax cut or credit or they are more likely to start/fund some kind of program that will benefit you. The proof is in the pudding. Under Clinton the middle and working class took a big pay increase. Under the others they gained little and in most years gained nothing or actually lost money. Yet, the republicans have convinced many poor, religious people to vote for them because they have convinced them that the evil democrats will force them to have abortions, take away their deer hunting rifles and teach their 6 year old how to put a condom on with their mouth.

2)Does the Republican party make it easier for their voters by offering more dogmatism against discussion?
On some issues yes and on others no. During the Bush years though there was a feeling by many republicans that if you didn't support Bush, the Patriot Act and the war in Iraq you were somehow not a patriot. The republicans do have it easier on some levels. They can point the finger and yell, "Liberal!" and they have been able to turn that word into some kind of evil statement. Those in the middle are not offended because they don't see themselves as liberals and even most liberals are not offended because to them it isn't a bad thing, but for hardcore republicans "liberal" is the ultimate slur. Yet the democrats can't return the favor and say, "Religious whack job!" Because there are a lot of people in the middle who are religious and would take offense to that. So in some ways the republicans can offer a more dogmatic point of view.

3)Are the republican voters really more ignorant, or is it also a matter of the neighborhood, where crows are herding with crows and you don't want to dissapoint your "community" by having another political views?

I think it is an even mix. I was listening to Howard Stern before the election and they sent a guy into Harlem to ask people there about Obama. As you would expect he enjoyed huge support in that neighborhood. The catch was they asked the people about their support for Obama's policies only they used all of McCain's instead and every single person they talked to agreed with these policies and were ready to vote for Obama. They had no idea where he stood on the issues, but they were ready to vote for him. So I think ignorance is all over the place. People use a lot of stupid reasons to choose who and what they vote for so I don't think it is contained to one party. If I had to pick I would say the republicans are a little more ignorant simply because of the religion aspect. There was a piece on CNN where they went to a conservative part of Ohio during the election and talked to about 10 different people. All of them said the same thing. They said they thought Obama had better ideas and would be a better president, but they were not voting for him because he was pro choice. As long as a candidate is pro life they will vote for him. That is the deciding factor for them. When you operate in such absolutes you open yourself up to ignorance.

4)Are the Republicans more liable to attack you in public for your political views than democrats?
I don't think they are any more than the democrats are willing to attack. The only possible option is the liberal argument I made above, but in my life I have probably seen more democrats and liberals protesting than conservatives and republicans.

Anyway, sorry for the long post.

03-27-2009, 03:38 AM
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	This is just my opinion: 1)Does the Republican party appeal to the less educated / more dogmatic thinking / more ignorant class of the US society? I don't think it does any more than the democrats appeal to the lesser educated liberals. For me the main difference is that the democrats have convinced a group of people that they can't exist without the governments help while the republicans have managed to convince an entire group of people to vote against their own best interests (from a financial standpoint). If you look over the last 28 years (since Reagan won in 1980) we have had 20 years of Republicans in the white house and 8 years of democrats. During that time we also had 16 years where the republicans owned the senate and 6 years where they owned the senate, house and white house. During this time the average annual income in the country has gone up $9,000 per year (adjusted to today's dollar) of that $7,500 came during the 8 Clinton years and the other $1500 is spread out across the three republicans. It is pretty clear that if you make very little money it is in your best interest (financially speaking) to vote democrat. They are more likely to give you a tax cut or credit or they are more likely to start/fund some kind of program that will benefit you. The proof is in the pudding. Under Clinton the middle and working class took a big pay increase. Under the others they gained little and in most years gained nothing or actually lost money. Yet, the republicans have convinced many poor, religious people to vote for them because they have convinced them that the evil democrats will force them to have abortions, take away their deer hunting rifles and teach their 6 year old how to put a condom on with their mouth. 2)Does the Republican party make it easier for their voters by offering more dogmatism against discussion? On some issues yes and on others no. During the Bush years though there was a feeling by many republicans that if you didn't support Bush, the Patriot Act and the war in Iraq you were somehow not a patriot. The republicans do have it easier on some levels. They can point the finger and yell, "Liberal!" and they have been able to turn that word into some kind of evil statement. Those in the middle are not offended because they don't see themselves as liberals and even most liberals are not offended because to them it isn't a bad thing, but for hardcore republicans "liberal" is the ultimate slur. Yet the democrats can't return the favor and say, "Religious whack job!" Because there are a lot of people in the middle who are religious and would take offense to that. So in some ways the republicans can offer a more dogmatic point of view. 3)Are the republican voters really more ignorant, or is it also a matter of the neighborhood, where crows are herding with crows and you don't want to dissapoint your "community" by having another political views? I think it is an even mix. I was listening to Howard Stern before the election and they sent a guy into Harlem to ask people there about Obama. As you would expect he enjoyed huge support in that neighborhood. The catch was they asked the people about their support for Obama's policies only they used all of McCain's instead and every single person they talked to agreed with these policies and were ready to vote for Obama. They had no idea where he stood on the issues, but they were ready to vote for him. So I think ignorance is all over the place. People use a lot of stupid reasons to choose who and what they vote for so I don't think it is contained to one party. If I had to pick I would say the republicans are a little more ignorant simply because of the religion aspect. There was a piece on CNN where they went to a conservative part of Ohio during the election and talked to about 10 different people. All of them said the same thing. They said they thought Obama had better ideas and would be a better president, but they were not voting for him because he was pro choice. As long as a candidate is pro life they will vote for him. That is the deciding factor for them. When you operate in such absolutes you open yourself up to ignorance. 4)Are the Republicans more liable to attack you in public for your political views than democrats? I don't think they are any more than the democrats are willing to attack. The only possible option is the liberal argument I made above, but in my life I have probably seen more democrats and liberals protesting than conservatives and republicans. Anyway, sorry for the long post.