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Mutt · 03-06-2009, 12:39 PM

i've posted the idea here before and I noticed that industry attorney Larry Walters in a recent XBiz article thinks it's a viable idea. Going after tube site owners isn't the answer, lawsuits against them have already been dropped as the cost of a long complicated lawsuit is prohibitive and the piracy friendly DMCA makes winning a lawsuit against a tube site doubtful. And let's not forget the Bro order of things in this industry, at the highest levels we have parasites making out like bandits ...... large program owners fucking over content owners with their copyright thieving tubes ... <cough> Pornhub.com </cough>, cam and dating companies profiting greatly, PPC ad networks same thing, programs now desperately actually buying ads and making deals with those that steal from them - suing one of them makes you few friends and makes many enemies.

so the solution is to target MR. UPLOADER - that's who you sue. and please don't say it didn't work for the mainstream music and motion picture companies who did it. WHOLE DIFFERENT situation. It's one thing to find out that Marge and Bill's teenaged son has been sued for copyright infringement for downloading mp3's by SONY Music, everybody in their world knows 'all the kids are doing it', SONY looks like a big bully and there is no shame attached to it at all. But when you sue some loser who thinks it's his right to steal and distribute/upload copyrighted pornography, there is SHAME, lots of it. You distribute the news story that John Smith of 12 Maple Drive of Smalltown, Nebraska has been sued in federal court for uploading a title like 'Ass Fucked in Pigtails' to Pornhub to every last news outlet on the Internet, every local forum that people from his town/city can see it, in his local newspaper.

ISP's, tube sites, file hosting services, forum owners, can hide behind the DMCA - the uploader can't.

Create your own tube sites, hell most people seem to have one already. Start making examples of uploaders. Pornhub won't give up the IP addresses of its' uploaders, most likely because the majority of them would turn out to be in house or employees uploading - but when you own your tube site, you have an endless supply of IP addresses from American ISP's just waiting to be subpoenaed.

Not a perfect solution but it would hopefully scare off a % of surfers. And if you can't make much money anymore selling porn, you might make some good money just suing uploaders.

03-06-2009, 12:39 PM
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	The only possible solution to the 'tube problem' i've posted the idea here before and I noticed that industry attorney Larry Walters in a recent XBiz article thinks it's a viable idea. Going after tube site owners isn't the answer, lawsuits against them have already been dropped as the cost of a long complicated lawsuit is prohibitive and the piracy friendly DMCA makes winning a lawsuit against a tube site doubtful. And let's not forget the Bro order of things in this industry, at the highest levels we have parasites making out like bandits ...... large program owners fucking over content owners with their copyright thieving tubes ... <cough> Pornhub.com </cough>, cam and dating companies profiting greatly, PPC ad networks same thing, programs now desperately actually buying ads and making deals with those that steal from them - suing one of them makes you few friends and makes many enemies. so the solution is to target MR. UPLOADER - that's who you sue. and please don't say it didn't work for the mainstream music and motion picture companies who did it. WHOLE DIFFERENT situation. It's one thing to find out that Marge and Bill's teenaged son has been sued for copyright infringement for downloading mp3's by SONY Music, everybody in their world knows 'all the kids are doing it', SONY looks like a big bully and there is no shame attached to it at all. But when you sue some loser who thinks it's his right to steal and distribute/upload copyrighted pornography, there is SHAME, lots of it. You distribute the news story that John Smith of 12 Maple Drive of Smalltown, Nebraska has been sued in federal court for uploading a title like 'Ass Fucked in Pigtails' to Pornhub to every last news outlet on the Internet, every local forum that people from his town/city can see it, in his local newspaper. ISP's, tube sites, file hosting services, forum owners, can hide behind the DMCA - the uploader can't. Create your own tube sites, hell most people seem to have one already. Start making examples of uploaders. Pornhub won't give up the IP addresses of its' uploaders, most likely because the majority of them would turn out to be in house or employees uploading - but when you own your tube site, you have an endless supply of IP addresses from American ISP's just waiting to be subpoenaed. Not a perfect solution but it would hopefully scare off a % of surfers. And if you can't make much money anymore selling porn, you might make some good money just suing uploaders. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!