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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
Iraq was never a hotbed of Muslim extremism. In fact, it was one of the more tamer countries in the Middle East. The terrorists who target us hated Saddam. The complete opposite effect has now happened as we've turned the country into a terrorist hangout.
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correct. however, as i said, it was about opportunity to put a nice big base and friendly governent there using Saddams refusal to cooperate with UN / weapons inspectors as justification
what it is today is a matter of opinion by those who have no information to make such an opinion. without taking sides... it went from total collapse, no water, no electricity, no medicine etc etc etc to coming back together with radical clerics having tons of power to even those radical clerics joining the democratic process.
anyone suggesting that the situation is not fluid and not improving daily is not being very honest with themselves or anyone else.
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And I agree with your reasons for why we go to war. But Iraq doesn't even come close to matching them. They posed no threat our country or our people. They posed no real threat to our national interests. I don't think the decision to go to war should be taken lightly.
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again... with respect to Iraq, i used the word opportunity. Saddam again gambled that he could thumb his nose at the world with impunity and after 12 or so UN Resolutions and continually kicking weapons inspectors out and refusing to account for weapons etc, he created opportunity.
the "threat" is the long term and widening instability of the region which can only deepen as the worlds dependence on fossil fuels decreases. every middle east government is barely clinging to power and its been that way forever and no economic forecaster is going to tell you the prospects is bright for the region. instability + predicted increased instability + fundamentalism/extremism + terrorism + nuclear weapons = threat to everyone in the region and world.