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kane · 02-20-2009, 04:50 PM

I think they believe but it may be to differing degrees. I have met pastors/priests in my life who were so devout they believed that God steered their every action. I was in a car with one of them once while he was driving. We went to a fast food drive through and were eating as we drove. He was driving and before he ate he closed his eyes and bowed his head in prayer - as we drove down the road at 50mph - when I asked what they hell he was doing he told me not to worry, God was watching over us. These are the people who feel it is God's will no matter what happens.

I have also met some that believe in God, but feel like God is more of a guidance counselor of sorts and that you choose your own path and destiny.

So they both believe, but they might disagree on how much influence God has in your day to day life.

Are there some in the church who don't believe? Sure, but I think that it wouldn't be that many. It would be very difficult to devout your life to something you didn't believe in just to get a paycheck. I do, however, think there a decent number of priests who are people with fucked up pasts/childhoods who have run to religion as a sort of therapy and when it kind of works they immerse themselves into it. You have to ask the question:"What type of person would knowingly and freely give up sex, dating, marriage, parenthood and things like that in order to serve other people who are able to willingly partake in those things you have given up?" The answer, to me, is someone that is either very devout, or very fucked up. . .or maybe both.

Short version - Yes, I think most believe. I think there are a tiny few that don't and I think there are some that are very fucked up in head and have turned to the church as a way to deal with their problems (often times it doesn't work).

02-20-2009, 04:50 PM
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I think they believe but it may be to differing degrees. I have met pastors/priests in my life who were so devout they believed that God steered their every action. I was in a car with one of them once while he was driving. We went to a fast food drive through and were eating as we drove. He was driving and before he ate he closed his eyes and bowed his head in prayer - as we drove down the road at 50mph - when I asked what they hell he was doing he told me not to worry, God was watching over us. These are the people who feel it is God's will no matter what happens. I have also met some that believe in God, but feel like God is more of a guidance counselor of sorts and that you choose your own path and destiny. So they both believe, but they might disagree on how much influence God has in your day to day life. Are there some in the church who don't believe? Sure, but I think that it wouldn't be that many. It would be very difficult to devout your life to something you didn't believe in just to get a paycheck. I do, however, think there a decent number of priests who are people with fucked up pasts/childhoods who have run to religion as a sort of therapy and when it kind of works they immerse themselves into it. You have to ask the question:"What type of person would knowingly and freely give up sex, dating, marriage, parenthood and things like that in order to serve other people who are able to willingly partake in those things you have given up?" The answer, to me, is someone that is either very devout, or very fucked up. . .or maybe both. Short version - Yes, I think most believe. I think there are a tiny few that don't and I think there are some that are very fucked up in head and have turned to the church as a way to deal with their problems (often times it doesn't work).