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Old 02-08-2009, 10:06 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
Tough luck. It's the only way to do it.

Here's the problem:
- they can legally do what they're doing
- they can make a profit doing it

Given those two factors, it will not stop.

To stop it, you need to change one of the factors. Since eliminating their profits is impossible, the legality of what they need to do needs to be addressed.

The copyright route looks promising at first glance, but when you realize that many could survive even on bought content, and that copyright is hard to police to begin with, it fails.

So, you're left with the "protect the children" route.
I think you're wrong. The protecting the children angle will only work if the US blocks sites that don't conform. Will they pass the law banning porn outside members area and blocks sites that break that law? Not likely.

So we're left with the profit angle.

We need to realise Tubes don't exist to give away content, they exist to sell and make a profit. Traffic and free porn has to be paid for by dating, web cams and up sells to sites. The sites are probably bearing the cost of the Tubes with Dating and Web cams up sells.

So we need to get away from the model of a paysite just being a place to download videos. We need to target the surfers on Tubes who are paying the bills of Tube sites. The guys buying Dating and Web Cams.

Put live shows, live web cam girls and dating sites inside the members area. Do it for free and sell a 1-1 web cam for a price the people who buy this service will never buy it from a site that has to charge them enough to support the Tubes and their 1,000s who will never spend a penny.

Live web cam girls here in CZ are earning 20 to 40 Euros a day. Having round the clock girls would cost a site 100 Euros a day 3,000 a month. A big site can afford it and the small sites needs to club together and share a girl. The up sells will pay for it, but upsell for 1/3 of what the normal ones cost.

Remember there is no affiliate payments to drive thousands of surfers for a few to buy. The cost/profit is between the company running the girls, the girl and the paysite. The paysite affiliates will appreciate the extra bonus to sell to his surfers.

Does it work?
After two weeks of testing it on my site I'm about to tell the affiliates and get them to push it hard. It's working.
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