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mikesouth · 12-08-2008, 12:15 PM

FTP - Ok I see how you intend to do it, it isnt an official donation it comes out of CCBills take but it still doesn't mitigate the point that what it really does is rewards the FSC for nothing and it gives them no reason to be accountable or otherwise improve. It's throwing money at them hoping they improve which history shows us they wont.

Conner - I can respect the idea that you think I am wrong for the simple reason that I think you are wrong. Just because I am not a myrmidon who will blindly follow whatever the FSC says is its mantra o the day, doesn't mean I am harming the industry. What I am trying to do is make it better. Constructive criticism. Everytime I have been confronted with deflection (the well what would YOU do thing) I answer honestly, without deflecting.

In my heart I know that we as an industry can do a lot better than this organization. We are driven, independent and very innovative. If we spent half the effort to come up with a better trade organization that we do into trying to screw the customer and each other we would have the most effective trade organization in history.

Do my commentaries hurt the FSC? Yes, in a word I know that they do, but that alone wouldn't be enough if the FSC wasn't proving my points over and over.

If I were ED of the FSC the first thing I would do is call me and see if there was something, anything that could be done to reverse this perception that they are worthless. The second thing I would do is shut the fuck up defending myself and listen for the facts that may come out of that and acknowledge that just maybe Mike South is simply trying to tell us what everyone already knows but nobody will acknowledge.

Im not saying that I speak for anyone but myself but the evidence bears out that a whole lot of people seem to agree with me, nopt because I am saying it but from their own experiences with the FSC. Telling them that they are all wrong as well, isn't going to solve your problems.

12-08-2008, 12:15 PM
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	FTP - Ok I see how you intend to do it, it isnt an official donation it comes out of CCBills take but it still doesn't mitigate the point that what it really does is rewards the FSC for nothing and it gives them no reason to be accountable or otherwise improve. It's throwing money at them hoping they improve which history shows us they wont. Conner - I can respect the idea that you think I am wrong for the simple reason that I think you are wrong. Just because I am not a myrmidon who will blindly follow whatever the FSC says is its mantra o the day, doesn't mean I am harming the industry. What I am trying to do is make it better. Constructive criticism. Everytime I have been confronted with deflection (the well what would YOU do thing) I answer honestly, without deflecting. In my heart I know that we as an industry can do a lot better than this organization. We are driven, independent and very innovative. If we spent half the effort to come up with a better trade organization that we do into trying to screw the customer and each other we would have the most effective trade organization in history. Do my commentaries hurt the FSC? Yes, in a word I know that they do, but that alone wouldn't be enough if the FSC wasn't proving my points over and over. If I were ED of the FSC the first thing I would do is call me and see if there was something, anything that could be done to reverse this perception that they are worthless. The second thing I would do is shut the fuck up defending myself and listen for the facts that may come out of that and acknowledge that just maybe Mike South is simply trying to tell us what everyone already knows but nobody will acknowledge. Im not saying that I speak for anyone but myself but the evidence bears out that a whole lot of people seem to agree with me, nopt because I am saying it but from their own experiences with the FSC. Telling them that they are all wrong as well, isn't going to solve your problems. __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.