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Old 12-06-2008, 06:17 PM  
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I was gonna be done with this thread but THIS just got to me....

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Why do people in this industry believe that if they donate to the FSC that their donations should be their own private "legal fund ?"
Well for starters let me clarify by YOUR term of "This Industry" to be ONLINE PORN, and not necessarily the whole ball of wax, there is indeed two factions of porn, brick & mortar companies Like Elegant Angel, Vivid, Kick Ass, etc, they MAY or may not also have an online presence BUT the brick and mortar companies STARTED the biz NOT US, WE are the "new kids on the block" and WE as a collective have done more HARM then good since our birth.

To get back to the actual question... the BULK of your average adult webmasters are NOT biz savoy people, they are not college grads, biz majors, etc etc, SOME ARE, but MOST are NOT, now you have a major crisis (hell theres at LEAST one per month right?) and one org steps up and PRETENDS to be "Jesus Christ" (Meaning our only saviors from the powers that be) they CLAIMED "Give us money, and you WILL BE PROTECTED" they make all these wonderful claims about your safety, privacy, and well being, and they did nothing more then prey upon people's FEAR.

Now remember based on the assumption that the bulk of us are NOT biz majors, we join this org, and we assume we are protected and that would be enough right? WRONG, we STILL need our OWN legal representation.... or do we?

I remember one of the BIGGEST gripes I had with the FSC during the days of my radio shows was the blatant LIES and fear mongering people on their behalf were into, I recall a thread (here I think) where a person said something along the lines of "we have our own legal team WHY SHOULD WE JOIN THE FSC" and the "official response" was along the lines of: "If your NOT a member of the FSC you will NOT be covered in their 2257 injunction"

So this org, knows MORE then your own hired legal aid, and without them no matter who your legal team is your gonna be fucked??? guess I better join now huh? and with all this logic I don't need a lawyer on TOP of the FSC since as a member I'm covered so they say.

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The FSC is not in existence to provide a defense to every adult company that gets into trouble nor should they. Each company has to take responsibility for themselves and actually provide for their own defense.
Again lets go back to the beginning of the FSC's internet fame, where they came to the sub porn niche (see beginning of this post) and filled our heads with promises of safety and a magic SEALED list that everyone upon that list would be SAFE and FREE of gov. inspections, WHY should I bother with my own lawyer when this wonderful org has me TOTALLY PROTECTED? (or so they claimed)

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The FSC will step up and file amicus curiae briefs when necessary on behalf of the industry as a whole. Its myopic to think that "hey I gave $50,000 to the FSC this year, they will keep that money for me in case I need to get a lawyer."
How about changing that to: "hey I gave $50,000 to the FSC this year, why didn't they do anything they 'promised' they would do pertaining the online porn industry?"

Here's a funny thing from me, I APPLAUD the FSC.... for their OFFLINE porn work, they have done ALLOT for the brick & mortar porn companies, BUT they have fleeced and raped the online portion of the industry and have done NOTHING that I can see.

Their simply "robbing peter to pay for paul" Peter being the internet porn people, Paul being the offline porn people

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You cannot claim fiscal mismanagement without knowing what the budget is for an equally situated industry and their trade group. Please provide some facts in comparison before you make unsubstantiated claims. And please don't use a trade group like the NRA that is 10x the size of the FSC. Compare apples to apples.
This is some skeevy shit, an org CLAIMING to need money to fund litigation, to file injunctions, to hire legal teams, to OVERTURN bills BILKS almost TWO MILLION dollars in a fiscal year and according to their own report spends the bulk of that money on WHAT?

I could care less how much EFD (fake org) spends on what from their 2mill MEMBER DONATED FUNDS, UNLESS they made grandiose claims and fell far more then short on actually making good on said claims, The FSC did and has been doing just that.

Really this is a subject that got me into some trouble years back, and these days you guys would call it a "bro issue" I call it a bullshit issue, we reap what we sow nothing more and nothing less. I love this industry and by that I mean the ENTIRE industry, but the damage this faction has done is really not fixable even by the best PR people we have, as a collective whole we have created an online empire based on fucking...

fucking our consumers, and then whining when the law tries to stop us, OR when someone "steals" our content.

porn is a BIZ nothing more nothing less, and contrary to popular belief not EVERYONE can make it in biz

/end rant
// steps off soap box

/// puts on Flame Retardant pants

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