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Old 12-04-2008, 11:23 PM  
Kevin Marx
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Originally Posted by Raym View Post
Fuckin A!!!
I spend at least 30 min a day emailing tube sites to get them to take my shit down or at least promote our sites. Tube site content should have a definite time limit. 3-4 min max or a definite limit on how many videos the surfer can watch. I am sorry but as a webmaster and as a director it is fucking horrible to spend 20-30 grand on shooting a movie 5-6 scenes and bonus and BTS and then see the fucking whole thing cut up on tube sites for free!!! not even promoting it!! just giving my shit away!!!! I REALLY love what I do ... But I don't do it for free!! I do it to profit and to grow our business. To put it simply 99% of the tubes sites are fucking pirates!! Burn'em
Tube sites should be promotional sites plain and simple. It makes no sense to give away product unless someone is advertising and benefiting from that delivery method. Even one illegal video should be abhorrent to every single sponsor on a site..... yet, they are benefitting from the traffic, who are they to complain?

It would be interesting to see someone sue not only a site like YouPorn, but also sue their sponsors and advertisers as accessories.

Tube sites should be responsible enough to police their content and know legit content from illegitimate. it's really not that hard. Find me a site with true amateur (not professionally produced) uploaded content which comprises over 80% of their viewings (and make it their highest rated content too) and I would be absolutely floored.

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Originally Posted by Blazed View Post
And why hasn't it gone to court, if they are so clearly illegal it would be an open and shut case, easy pickings for whoever sues them? And whether tube8 use fake nicks or not that is only your opinion, they may well do but there is definitely no shortage of surfers willing to upload.
Nothing in this world is open and shut. Nothing.

Also, exactly as you say, there is no shortage of surfers willing to upload. But with that in mind, uploading content that you have no rights to is still a crime. Without permission of the copyright holder, it's illegal. The sites should not be accepting the content (yet they happen to be sort of kind of protected by a law that makes no fucking sense).

Somewhere along the way, people decided that the Internet was the Wild Fucking West and they can do whatever the hell they want, anytime they want, and not act responsibly. Does everyone think that deliberately fucking over another person is a good idea as long as you personally can get ahead?

I have my own question on the legality of this stuff..... Who the fuck is maintaining the 2257 information for Tube sites? They obviously aren't.... and if they don't have the docs, shouldn't they at least be able to point to the custodian of records for each and every bit of content they reference? I would think that at a minimum that would be a legal requirement. I surely wouldn't want to own a TGP/MGP/Tube site personally without having those types of links on each and every depiction that was hosted or linked to by my site. Very dangerous waters IMO.
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