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Old 12-04-2008, 09:14 AM  
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I used to hunt, grew up hunting all the time. Yes we ate the meat and at times what was for dinner was only killed hours earlier. But I was raised in the country, we had lots of reasons to kill deer or about any other gritter that might be on our land. Deer can destroy a good hay field. I don't hunt anymore, my wife who also grew up eating venison said she was burnt out on it so I stopped hunting. Sure I could find people that would love to have the meat and could actually be a big help to them but it does take time and that is something I have little of. The point I am really trying to make is about culture, the US is not a one culture nation and never has been. It is perfectly normal here to see kids at Bass Pro Shops getting new guns and other things to assist in the hunt. Nope I dont think PEDA pickets there.

One thing I have not seen in this thread and if I missed it sorry. If not for hunters, those guys out killing bambi you might not be able to see bambi anyplace today but in a zoo. Those same hunters pay to hunt, that money is what the states use to maintain the wildlife, it is what pays for those operations to build back the wildlife numbers in some areas of the country. The same money pays for some of those places you non killing folks get to see the deer and the antelope play. Again without the hunters some wildlife would already be extinct.

Point : Hunters are paying for the right to hunt. Now to the veggie folks out there, did you know the farms that raise your veggies kill animals? They do it to protect your veggies from Bambi and they don't even need a license in most states or be in season when they are protecting their crops. Fences, deer can jump higher and further than most animals but they still get tangled in some fences that are built to protect property.

Deer are mean mofos, If you don't think so pour some of that deer piss on your during the right season, take a long walk in the deer woods, then after you have been raped by a buck come back and tell us all how cute they are.

I will say this in terms of hunting today. Technology has changed some things, when I was a kid sure we scouted for deer markings, we planned the area we intended to hunt in but we didnt have deer piss unless we took it from a deer we had killed and I dont think I ever knew anyone back then that thought that was a good idea. We knew to stay downwind of the area we were hunting. Sure I see the hunting shows on TV and see how they get a deer within a few feet to kill them. Personally I dont like seeing anything suffer so I can't say I am a big fan of bow hunting. If I ever saw a true clean kill I might not feel that way. For us growing up, having to track a deer that ran off after you shot it was one of the worst things in the world. It meant you failed, you did not make a good shot and make a clean kill, you left an animal suffering and you had the responsibility to track the animal till you found it and finished the job right if it had not already died when you found it. You had also allowed a very dangerous animal when wounded loose and that could get someone else hurt. It may not seem like sport on those hunting shows that are trying to get as close as they can for the camera but I am sure they did some work to get to that point. Some hunters even do a little farming just to make a place to hunt.

Last house we built in the country, everyone that came out while we were building would look out the back and then look at me and smile, "you are building a killing field" they said that because of the lay of the land and the fact we saw deer everyday out back and had a quarter of a mile with rising ground at the back, perfect shooting spot. But nope that was not the plan but it was the plan to be able to see wildlife. Neighbor hunted and he loved the deer around too and no he didnt kill from his back porch, that is not hunting.

So to each their own but next time you are calling hunters names remember, if it were not for them the closest you might ever get to a deer would be a picture from a history book. They also control those populations to avoid guys living in the cities from climbing trees and jumping down on a deer and slitting its throat in front of a bunch of kids on the way to school in the morning.

In terms of if it is easy to go out and kill a deer, most of you have cameras, take some time and go deer hunting with your cameras and see just how easy it is to get a nice shot or two. This does not mean go out driving around till you see a deer in a field, it means go into the woods and find a deer and get pics, make it even more sporting and only bring back a buck, doe are not in season for cameras. Good Luck!

End of the day some enjoy what they love so much and defend because of the people they think they need to defend against for the sake of wildlife who are actually the people responsible for those animals still being around at all.

Ever notice how it seems everyone has to hate on someone, people spend way too much time talking hate these days. Also to those who eat meat but just think hunting is cruel, consider this, you are a deer in the woods and the lights go out, its done you were shot and are dead, sad but a fact of life. Now consider being a nice steer on the way to be slaughtered, you get loaded into a truck for a ride, never took a ride in your life so of course you are terrified, then you are unloaded into a pen and pushed through a shoot with others in front and behind you, you hear the hammer that is going to kill you and you see the one in front of you die, nothing you can do about it at all but wait for your turn to take the hammer. Personally, I would rather have been killed in the woods.

Meat, it's whats for dinner!
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