For a reference, Batts' "Yes, I failed BIG time" thread from early 2008, 6 pages
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/796926-yes-failed-time.html
I don't really know him, talked a few times on ICQ, he's been nice to me, but we never did any biz. From that thread it looks like he always wanted it good, it was harder than he thought and he made some mistakes and failed with his program.
But that was almost a year ago...