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Old 11-26-2008, 11:10 AM  
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2. Hitler was a quarter jewish (Ashkenazi) his grandfather was a Rotschild, as his grandmother worked as a maid at the Rotschild residence and got pregnant of him, Hitler's grandfather was not his real grandfather.
Source?

Look, it's true that Jews have a disproportionate amount of influence and power, but why add in bogus or unsubstantiated claims like the one above?

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Originally Posted by AnalProbe View Post
3. In Israel (still these days), Sephardic Jews, who have bloodties to the Middle East, get the shitty jobs, and Ashkenazi (end in...nazi) jews, who are in charge (Likud), give eachother the good jobs. This is very actual.

Ashkenazi jews have a lighter skin, often blue eyes, and they have no bloodties to the Middle East, they come from a tribe of warriors that lived in Khazaria (what is now called Georgia), in fact they are Khazars. To avoid eviction, they had to choose a religion. They chose judaism, and "adopted" the jewish belief, without any ties to Palestine (Israel did not exist).

The sephards, on the contrary, are far more related to the Palestines.

It is the Zionists that are behind the banks, and call themselves jews while they are not.

To give you an example : there are lots of African jews, especially Ethiopian... how is that possible ?

DNA Evidence

Modern DNA studies on the Y chromosome of Jews worldwide have largely disproven the Khazar origin theory for the vast majority of Jews, including the Ashkenazi.

A 1999 study by Hammer et al, published in the Proceedings of the United States National Academy of Sciences compared the Y chromosomes of Ashkenazi, Roman, North African, Kurdish, Near Eastern, Yemenite, and Ethiopian Jews with 16 non-Jewish groups from similar geographic locations. It found that "Despite their long-term residence in different countries and isolation from one another, most Jewish populations were not significantly different from one another at the genetic level... The results support the hypothesis that the paternal gene pools of Jewish communities from Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East descended from a common Middle Eastern ancestral population, and suggest that most Jewish communities have remained relatively isolated from neighboring non-Jewish communities during and after the Diaspora."[44] According to Nicholas Wade "The results accord with Jewish history and tradition and refute theories like those holding that Jewish communities consist mostly of converts from other faiths, or that they are descended from the Khazars, a medieval Turkish tribe that adopted Judaism."[45]

A 2001 study by Nebel et al found Eu 19 chromosomes, which are very frequent in Eastern Europeans (54%-60%) at elevated frequency (12.7%) in Ashkenazi Jews. The authors hypothesized that these chromosomes could reflect low-level gene flow from surrounding Eastern European populations, or, alternatively, that the Ashkenazi Jews with Eu 19 might be descendants of Khazars.[46]

A 2005 study by Nebel et al, based on Y chromosome polymorphic markers, showed that Ashkenazi Jews are more closely related to other Jewish and Middle Eastern groups than to their host populations in Europe. However, 11.5% of male Ashkenazim were found to belong to R-M17, the dominant Y chromosome haplogroup in Eastern Europeans, suggesting possible gene flow. The authors hypothesized that "R-M17 chromosomes in Ashkenazim may represent vestiges of the mysterious Khazars". They concluded "However, if the R-M17 chromosomes in Ashkenazi Jews do indeed represent the vestiges of the mysterious Khazars then, according to our data, this contribution was limited to either a single founder or a few closely related men, and does not exceed ~ 12% of the present-day Ashkenazim.[47]

In 2004 Dienekes Pontikos compared the frequency of haplogroups [[Haplogroup R1a (Y-DNA) |R1a]] and Q among Altaian Turkic speakers and Ashkenazi Jews. For Altaians, he found a ratio of about 2/7, while for Ashkenazim it was a ratio of about 2/4. Haplogroup Q is found in high frequencies in only a few regions of the world. Genetic analysis has allowed researchers to trace haplogroup Q to its probable ancestral homeland – the Altai Mountains of Southwest Siberia.

Dienekes concluded that it appears that some members of three very distinct populations—Scandinavian-Shetlanders, Native Americans and Ashkenazi Jews may share common ancestors originating from the Altai regions of southern Siberia. It seems reasonable that an overall 22% of Ashkenazi Jewish populations have some Proto-Khazar ancestry. That the Khazars of Khazaria may themselves have been somewhat mixed with Western Eurasian elements would decrease their frequency of haplogroup Q. The migration of R1a and Q groups into Scandinavia is presently unknown, though it is believed a group from Central Asia may have moved up into Scandinavia sometime around 400 CE. Only a few hundred years later, the Khazars of southern Russia make their first appearance in the historical record. And it is to the Khazars, who possessed a high frequency of this haplogroup, to which the Jews most likely owe their unique Q ancestry. Dienekes wrote that he found the continued silence of researchers about the presence of haplogroup Q among Ashkenazim "puzzling."[48]
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