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Old 11-13-2008, 01:28 PM  
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Originally Posted by A1R3K View Post
no, the goal is to get them to pull out their wallet in the least amount of clicks possible. unless you are running a traffic brokership, where all you do is send your leecher traffic to other people for $, your main goal is to get that card out of their pocket. why would you want to let them watch X number of videos and then "dump" them to a tube site? imho thats a terrible waste of even leecher traffic. at least pull the shady shit that some tubes do and send them to a "get premium status now for 5 bucks" or some shit. those premium access levels to tubes are just bullshit upsell speak where they say you get faster connections, yadda yadda, its a scam upsell at best. at least get some money out of them. where is the money in letting them watch X amount of videos and then sending them to more free videos, when we all know the average person searches for what he wants, beats off, and is gone in less than 5-7 minutes? tubes have sacrificed the ultimate goal of getting traffic.

(to tube owners)
yah, they managed to get it, now what you gonna do with it fuckers? you trained people to not buy porn. good job. good luck with saturated fake dating ads and dreams of getting your pee pee wet.

Airek, this is one of the biggest problems with the business at this moment. Webmasters still think they control the surfer. You dont! I agree, you wanna get a sale with the least amount of clicks as possible, makes sense. But surfers are not the same anymore, way savvier... The business is not teh same anymore cus of all the free content out there. If you cant deliver the goods to a surfer, theres a ton of other sites that will. you need to hook em.

So, i understand the mindstate of get the dollar out as soon as possible but getting a surfer to pick your site as the their go to place for free porn, a bookmark, some loyalty even if its short lived, is very important.

With SexGrid, the point is if a surfer hits it, its something new. they will hang out and give it a shot. If you deliver good quality content and more importantly and great experience within those few moments, you can get them over to your tube site and get the sale out of em at the right sponsor. Where as a surfer hitting a site thats just like the rest of em and dosnt even stick around or give it a decent chance.



As for Premium memberships, calling it "shady shit" or a "scam upsell" is bullshit. I sell premium memberships to my free users for 9.83.

If they are a free member, they cant watch over 15 vids. With Premium they can watch as many as they want.

If its a free member, he can only watch LOW res vids in 420x340. Whereas Premium can watch bigger and full screen vids in HIGH res.

Gutter Premium users get every video on Gutter.com in 3gp and mp4 formats, high and low. Free users dont get mobile.

Premium members get way over 200+ feeds on Gutter Tv and on Hustler Vivid TV.

And yea, we do give Premium users streaming priority


Shady? Scam? I dont think so.
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