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Old 11-05-2008, 12:53 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
That sounds pretty cool. Except tubes don't make money from signups to paysites. They make that pre-paid spot from a dating site. None of that has anything to do with the real porn business. It's just a traffic issue.

As far as giving the surfer exactly what they want...tube site owners have NO idea who their traffic is. You don't work traffic. But I have for over 10 years. And I KNOW what all that traffic is. It's a LOT of teenage boys jerking off. We used to have them on our TGP's. But now they are all over on the tubes. Can't blame them for that.

But for tube site owners to claim they know what surfers want...that's ridiculous. A tube site is a script. Plain and simple. No human touch from the owner. Tubes give teenagers a place to jerk off. Damn, I only wish that there had been such a thing when I was a teenager.

And for the traffic SELLING part of your equation...that traffic is complete shit when it comes to productivity. What it is useful for is for people to buy it to pump up their numbers so they can sell advertising on their sites. Plain and simple.
Spot on. I've had traffic from these guys and it sucks. Blind links that promise more of the same are surfers who will immediately go back to where they came from. And this is the ones who click the first time to find it's a link to a paysite. The ones with adverts convert fairly well once the surfer has clicked on a link he knows is to a paysite. But how many free tube views does it take for one to come over and buy something. The traffic might be vast, but it's crap and this is their Achilles heel.

We can wait for it to all to turn around and prey the costs will outstrip the returns or we can make them unprofitable. You have a good idea to produce good and unique content then protect it. Sadly few can follow you or will and if they all did it would not be long before some techie guy will break the codes. Or the Tube sites will be off to the local porn DVD store for content. I like what you're doing and support it, but it's not a universal answer for all of us.
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