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Old 03-18-2003, 12:41 AM  
NetRodent
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By "contrived" I mean the War Monger always makes the worst possible assertions, never counters any of the peaceniks claims, and basically allows the Peacenik to stear the discussion away from faults in the Peacenik's arguments. I'm not going to respond to the whole thing (its too gosh darn long), but here are a few selected counters...


PN: Mushroom cloud? But I thought the weapons inspectors said Iraq had no nuclear weapons.

Just because they didn't find any doesn't mean Iraq doesn't have any. OJ Simpson was convicted even though a lot of evidence pointed to him.

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PN: But I thought Iraq did not have any long range missiles for attacking us or our allies with such weapons.

Iraq has missles capable of hitting Turkey, Isreal, Saudi Arabia. Last time I checked those countries are our allies.

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PN: But coundn't virtually any country sell chemical or biological materials? We sold quite a bit to Iraq in the eighties ourselves, didn't we?

Of course many countries could sell chemical and biological materials, the difference is in likelyhood.

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PN: A pre-emptive first strike does sound bad. But didn't our ambassador to Iraq, April Gillespie, know about and green-light the invasion of Kuwait?

If I recall correctly the April Gillespie remarks about the US not having an opinion were based on the Iraq/Kuwait border dispute. Saddam didn't ask
her if the US would permit him to invade and plunder Kuwait.

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PN: Is this the same audio tape where Osama Bin Laden labels Saddam a secular infidel?

Didn't Stalin and Hitler have secret no-aggresion pact even though each side publically though the other was scum? Relationships are not always what they seem. If you're eager to assume the worst about US government conspiracies, shouldn't you also assume the worst about Iraqi/Bin Laden conspiracies?

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PN: But North Korea actually has large amounts of usable chemical, biological, AND nuclear weapons, AND long range missiles that can reach the west coast AND it has expelled nuclear weapons inspectors, AND threatened to turn America into a sea of fire.

Exactly. North Korea was allowed time to develop all of those nasty weapons. Better to stop Iraq now, rather than later when we have to face an armed Iraq and an armed North Korea. The North Korean issue will be undoubtably be addressed in due time.

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PN: But wouldn't a pre-emptive war against Iraq ignite radical Muslim sentiments against us, and decrease our security?

Possibly, but peaceniks claimed this would happen during the first gulf war. However, while it may temporarily decrease security, it will in the long run increase security since an the Iraqi economy will be rebuilt after the war. The current situation breeds more hatred and extremism than the alternative.

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PN: So, likewise, if the world called on us to do something, such as find a peaceful solution, we would have an obligation to listen?

12 years it has called. When is enough, enough? While we should heed world opinion, we must look to our own self interest first.

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The peacenik obviously picked up a few facts here and there, but has problems connecting the dots.
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