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Old 03-17-2003, 05:43 PM  
JeremySF
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Originally posted by TheJimmy



However on your 1st statement up there, Osama may have only used it 'after' 9/11, what I was trying to mention earlier is that I heard this rage back in the early 90s coming from some of the same people that thought Osama & his ideals were nifty. It wasn't recently thought up, ok, well sure if you consider the 1950's recent ;)
Which is exactly why Osama began using the issue to unify arab resentment against the west.

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Anytime someone forces a state on a region (I'm not an anti Israel by any means FYI) there is going to be trouble. I don't care if we forced a state on Germany or Africa or S. America for the Jews, or Buddists or Whoever.... There would be trouble.

Bottom line we forced an issue, made it happen, picked sides and now we're seeing some of the results of doing that.

The entire region was forced. England/France divied up the Ottoman Empire after WWI. Jews, having long been persecuted, wanted a homeland to escape persecution. There were many promises made to the Jews to create a homeland. Recall the Balfour Declaration, in which the Brits finally concured that there should be a Jewish homeland. Of course, they changed their mind, and 6 million Jews were killed shortly thereafter in the Holocaust.

The Arabs had an opportunity to have their own "Palestinian" homeland. They chose not to because they wanted to drive the Jews into the ocean and claim all the land for themselves. The land known as Palestine actually became part of Jordan.
So why doesn't Jordan want the land back?

Israel acquired the land in the disputed/occupied terrotories after being attacked time and again by its hostile arab neighbors.

Jews were ethnically cleansed from every Arab and Muslim country in the middle east, but no one talks about that. Most of Israel's population (save for recent waves of Russian immigration) came from Muslim countries that were persectuing them.

Why has Jordan done so little to ease the refugee situation when 70% of Jordanians now consider themselves Palestinians?

It's a very complicated situation that's very hard for anyone who has not lived in the Middle East to comprehend.
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