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Originally posted by JeremySF
.... Why do you think Osama Bin Laden started using it as a gripe after 9/11. He hardly mentioned Israel before that, though.
Israel is the symbol that unifies, fuels and justifies hatred against Amerioa.
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Same goes for the Middle East. Jews, Israel, the West, America are all easy targets for deflecting criticism from their own shortcomings.
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Good points, and I agree, the root of these problems lies primarily in poverty and ignorance.
However on your 1st statement up there, Osama may have only used it 'after' 9/11, what I was trying to mention earlier is that I heard this rage back in the early 90s coming from some of the same people that thought Osama & his ideals were nifty. It wasn't recently thought up, ok, well sure if you consider the 1950's recent ;)
Anytime someone forces a state on a region (I'm not an anti Israel by any means FYI) there is going to be trouble. I don't care if we forced a state on Germany or Africa or S. America for the Jews, or Buddists or Whoever.... There would be trouble.
Bottom line we forced an issue, made it happen, picked sides and now we're seeing some of the results of doing that.
Anyone have 2 kids in here?
Try this little experiment:
1) Make them both share a room
2) Split up the room, and force one onto a smaller less cool side of the room if possible (ie without the bathroom access)
3) Give the one with the nicer side of the room a stick, so they can defend themselves
4) Don't let the other kid have a stick
5) Tell the kid with the stick to take just a little more of the room away from the other kid monthly...
6) Tell the kid without the stick that he can only respond to the continued lack of living space with words, no throwing rocks
and see what happens in a few weeks...
See if that kid without the stick and that was setup on the wrong end of the deal, see if they harbor some ill feelings towards the parents that did that AND the other kid...
hmm? possible? maybe
again, don't get me wrong, both are doing fucked up shit to eachother and have for a VERY long time.....
wrong is wrong, we just happen to pick one of those sides and are gonna ride it out...