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Old 10-08-2008, 01:47 PM  
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I have looked it up, and they don't pay for themselves.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...in_higher.html

http://www.ocpp.org/cgi-bin/display.cgi?page=cp0603

http://www.cbpp.org/3-8-06tax.htm

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2006/0...or-themselves/


Sure tax revenues eventually increase, but that's because our population and tax base grow every year. Revenues would have been substantially higher had those tax cuts not been enacted.
I disagree with the opinions of the links you posted.

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Tax revenues went up substantially more under Clinton than they did under Reagan, or under Bush.
irrelevant. the economic boom of the internet, housing, etc. had nothing to do with clinton (or the republican congress) it was a simple thing of right place right time.

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I agree with the spending....so let's start by not spending $10 billion a month in Iraq anymore.
I'd prefer to recoup our losses by taking iraqi oil but thats just me. it was a huge blunder to not pay for the war with iraqi oil

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Most of the "spending' Obama is proposing are on things that will save us money in the long term.

Investing in renewable energy sources so that we're not dependent on foreign oil. Not having to pay $4 a gallon for gas would be a boon to the economy.
mccain and obama have the same plan here.

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Fixing the health care system and getting everyone coverage, because it will be cheaper for all of us when the uninsured stop going to emergency rooms for free treatment.
This is entirely untrue and another boondogle the american people are about to swallow.
If a store announces that bread is now free? who won't take a free loaf of bread?
no different than medical care. Make it free and the guy who goes to the doctor once a year, now goes 5 times a year because, well, its free.
All of obama's projections of costs are idiotic because he didn't factor in what happens with human nature over the concept of "free"
this is the ugly side of false promises. we'll have a second Social Security we can't possibly pay for. then what? shall we tax the rich again?

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When it comes to politics you come off as an ideologue, but as a successful businessman I'm sure you're also a pragmatist. As a pragmatist I'm sure you would have to agree that some things you disagree with from an idealogical standpoint are still the right and practical thing to do.
I always do the right and practical thing.
pretending that health care is some sort of god given right and should be free for everyone is not practical or right.
raising taxes on the rich to placate your democratic base is not practical or right.
the entire country should should feel the pain of political spending then perhaps the poor would stop voting for more and more spending.
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