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Old 09-13-2008, 01:02 PM  
NickPapageorgio
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Originally Posted by xxxRumor View Post
i don't think its a win-win. (gov't is fucked here)

If an average Joe had a clue of how much Taxes he truly pays in a year, proportional to his income. There would be a revolution.

People don't realize how much taxes they pay.

Examples:

People don't know that employer pays 1/2 of their Social tax, and medicare (they think they pay whats on their check which is only 1/2 or 7% and employer pays 7% total of 14%). Employer could paid them another 7% more in salary if not those taxes.
They forget about things like taxes on beer, cigarettes, gas (which are hidden) on top of sales tax.

Also add the sales tax (they know this one)
Also add the property taxes...

Lets say Joe is making 60k/year. At the end, when all taxes are paid, Joe is probably out of about 60% of his real income.

Now, try take this directly out of his paycheck and show it to him (that would be fair). or tried to have a sales tax of 60%
NO WAY - People will revolt.

The only reason they don't is they don't know.
I'm not so positive that the government doesn't win in this situation. #1, they get to get rid of the IRS for the most part. That is one bloated department that they can take money and put elsewhere when it's no longer needed. #2, out of 10 people you see walking around in the street, what percentage honestly would you say doesn't pay their taxes or cheats on their taxes? Think about it. Even bums who live in cardboard boxes go to 7-11 and buy a bottle of Wild Irish Rose from time to time. I live near a farming community here in NC and I know of one house that has at the very least 20-30 mexicans (including kids) living in it. You think that farmer that hired them to top tobacco is filing their paper work? Hell no. Out of the 10-15 mexican adults living in that house, I would bet my next month's salary that 0 pay legit taxes on anything.
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