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Old 09-10-2008, 09:15 AM  
MaDalton
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
So you don't think anyone should hang with any of the top freesites in the world simply because they purposely OR inadvertantly did any of those things? Or we shouldn't hang out with any of the biggest programs in the world because they did that stuff back then? I think you might be too general in what you're saying. Think back to the companies that are old school and were around, and think back to the freesites that are old school and still around. We ALL do business with them in one way or another right now. And every one of them has changed their business models to keep up with the changing times. I happen to be friends with the people I see at the shows. And in most cases have made a lot of money with them.

My point being that a lot worse things have happened in the past and not only was it survived but the business grew. The last two years have seen ONE thing come in that didn't exist before: Tubes and Torrents stealing entire members areas and posting them for free.

That's the one thing I have seen really hurt the business. It's killing the generic sites. And it's killing my tgp's ability to make sales to all those big generic mega sites. And like I always do, I adapt to the situations. I've had to shift my emphasis to more niched sites and preferrably solo sites with member interaction.
actually i was referring mostly to the dialer stuff - you have lots of people on here and at shows that have been making millions with dialers. and i don't mean webmasters or freesite owners - i mean those people who invented, programmed and distributed them. i have especially 3 companies in mind that are on here mostly everyday, top notch stand up people if you'd ask around but nevertheless made millions by fucking surfers over with self-installing dialers.

now the dialer is dead, the drama is forgotten and nowadays with a slightly changed business model they are well accepted by everyone.

same will probably happen to tube site owners, x-sell pushers or whatever is invented next: some will try to get a piece of the cake, others will complain and in 2 years no one knows anymore what we have been discussing about today
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