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Originally Posted by kenny
oh, kind of like a sneaky grey area.. I see
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only if you are a scum bag who wants to misrepresent fair use as a loop hole when it is actually an explictly defined part of the copyright act
Your not that type of scum bag are ?
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So all those other programs that they don't own listed on the torrent along side the program they are downloading for time-shifting purposes is going to be left alone until after they purchase said program. Ok, thats a relieve.
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other people have a right to timeshift the stuff they paid for
other people have a right to recover the stuff they paid for
I don't believe the world revolves around me, just because I don't have those timeshifting/recovery rights doesn't mean other people should have access to their equivalent rights.
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Ok, I'll rent HBO for a month and download every episode of the Sopranos before I decide to cancel. Gotcha.
That way I offically time-shifted. 
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only if every episode from the 5 year run played in that one month otherwise that would be another example of your reverse timeshifting strawman arguement.
remember you only have a right to timeshift stuff you bought a right to view, obviously if it did not air in the month you subscribed you did not buy such a right to view.