LOL...why should I get a share of that as an affiliate?
I send traffic to a site to revshare in a membership to THAT site. Once MY surfer goes onto THEIR join page and joins...He is no longer MY surfer. He is now THEIR customer.
All of this talk is horseshit. Every business in the world does the equivalent of pre-checks. As one of the people in this thread already stated...you get hit with all kinds of things when you buy a plane ticket for instance.
Deceptive wording and "scare tactics" drive MILLIONS of dollars in the car industry for backend "product" And yes, every one of you has paid thousands and thousand of unnecessary dollars everytime you bought a car.
And insurance?
Precheck cross sales are no more a part of an affiliates money than all those pop ups were for the first 10 years of this business. I send traffic to join a SPECIFIC site. I get a HUGE percentage of that sale and all rebills for that sale.
And how did I do it? I put up a fucking link. Wow.
The paysite owner? Well, if he's like me...he shot everything himself. Found talent himself. Paid for everything. Edited himself. Designed and updated the site himself. Rendered all the video for hours. Uploaded each scene (a few hours everytime) and takes ALL the legal risk and social risks for his family.
And in the end...as an affiliate if I send a sign up to a site that costs $34.99 I just made $17.49! End of story.
As a paysite owner...if an affiliate sends me a sale....I pay him 17.49, I then pay $6.12 for the biller. And then I make $11.38 off of that sale. And oh, by the way...I host everything and pay for that on TOP of my production costs, time spent, 2257 costs, and legal costs.
And that doesn't take into account the fact that if there is a chargeback....I get nailed an ADDITIONAL $55 by the bank.
Oh, and all the surfers that get declined? Guess what? I get charged a fee for THAT as well.
Many of you on here are only seeing things from an affiliates view. That's understandable. I did too from 1998 to 2007.
But now that I'm on the other side of it as well and working 100 X harder than I ever did when I was Ampland...I understand a lot more things. Yes, my affiliate work with my tgps still takes 4 to 5 hard hours of very efficient work on my part. But the paysite? It's damn near a 24 hour job.
And knowing that, gives me a different perspective on pre-checked x-sells.
Also keep in mind, that they have been around for a long time. And quite frankly it wasn't until Mitch from Netbilling came on GFY and made a big post touting them about 6 months ago that it even became an issue.
At that point, a lot of affiliates who are relatively new (weren't around in the 1990's) started screaming that it was somehow "cheating" and "shady" and destroying the so-called "industry".
But it's been there all along. You just didn't know about it. Just like you didn't know that you didn't really need that $1,500 worth of extra warranty you bought with your new car. Or that flight insurance that you paid extra for on your airline ticket. Or those little extra things on your phone bill that you don't really have to have, but unless you call them and opt out you get charged for...and I could go on and on and on. It's how business is and always has been done...long before the internet even existed.
