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I do love war veterans. Patriotism is easy to talk about but they've actually put their lives on the line to protect what this country is all about. I respect the fuck out of that and don't care what "party" the person belongs to - and yes, I did vote for Al Gore over GW
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Well at least you're consistent on that front. What about Kerry?
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Agreed, you haven't, but to say that race doesn't play a part in this election would be completely ridiculous. It played a HUGE part of it and the exit polls for the Democratic party nominee shows that it did - it doesn't "have" to be said and so did gender.
If you were to poll the black population that voted for Obama on 10 things that he stood for you couldn't get an answer. They voted for him because of his skin color or against Hillary's gender. The majority of people are uninformed and that's terrible. Hell, I don't keep as up to date as I should but I certainly don't wear blinders either.
I've been on this earth 45 years now and have yet to meet a person that is tolerant of all things from all people. It exists, plain and simple...
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Race did play a role in the primaries. The people who said race was important to them, voted AGAINST Obama.
If you polled the black population on 10 things Al Gore or John Kerry stood for they probably couldn't tell you.
If you polled the average voter on 10 things that EITHER candidate stood for they probably couldn't tell you.
Most voters in this country are single, or maybe double issue voters, and have no idea where the candidates stand on issues that aren't their top issues. (issues like abortion, civil rights, equal pay, minimum wage, taxes, etc etc)
To say that Obama won "because" he's black is ridiculous. If that were the case then Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would both be former presidents.
Obama isn't going to get the black vote in November "because" he's black, he's going to get it because he's a democrat.
Put Alan Keyes on the ballot in November and see how much of the black vote he gets.
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That 700 billion is in foreign aid
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I didn't understand that. Was that a metaphor?
FWIW, the vast majority of our energy dollars go to Canada and Mexico. A very small percentage, like 10% go to so-called "countries that don't like us"...and you have to count the Saudis as a country that doesn't like us to get to that 10%.
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Absolutely right. Those ads are geared to pull on the heart-strings of emotions. I dislike them as well
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Agreed.
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We should certainly do something. The trade deficit is one of the reasons the dollar is so weak
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Actually no, the dollar is weak because we keep spending more money than we have. Where we spend our dollars doesn't affect the dollar's value, spending more dollars than we have weakens their value.
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Obama hasn't been talking about anything longer than McCain has - hasn't been around nearly as long.
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Actually he has been talking about it longer than McCain. McCain has voted against alternative energy sources over and over and over again. He didn't seem to "discover" the issue until this election cycle.
You're right that McCain has been around a long time. Going all the way back to the last energy crisis. So why hasn't he proposed any energy policy in all of that time? Where has he been on fuel efficiency standards all these years?
McCain is a johnny-come-lately to the energy policy debate....and "I want to drill right here and I want to drill right now" is, in McCain's words, "a platitude, not a solution"