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Old 09-05-2008, 09:59 AM  
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Plain and simple truth of the matter - If Obama's skin was white, he would not have beaten Hillary and it burns me up to hear people say "Don't vote for McCain just because he's a war veteran" while all the while pushing the button to vote for Obama simply because he's black.

I watched the speech last night and no, he's not a great public speaker, but his words did inspire and when he said he wants to stop sending 700 billion/year to countries that don't like us very much that was icing on the cake for me.

That's 700 billion to pump into our school systems and lord knows, we certainly need that.
Your assertion that Obama wouldn't have won if he were white is pretty ridiculous. It is an OPINION, not a fact as you claimed it was.
If you love war veterans so much and think that's a good reason to vote for someone, then I'm assuming you voted for Al Gore and John Kerry who both served in Vietnam, instead of for George W Bush who didn't?

My racism charge against that bitch had nothing to do with her wanting McCain to win.
That was an argument that spanned more than one thread and I invite you to stay out of it.

I've never once said anyone should vote for Obama because he's black, neither has anyone in his campaign.

The 700 billion a year is a red herring. Yes that money gets shipped overseas so to speak....but if we produced that energy here, it wouldn't put 700 billion in the government coffers that could be spent on schools. That money would go to whomever owns the land where the resources are, and to the companies that recover and then put the product on the market.

The resources we have here vs. the resources in the middle east is something alot of people don't understand. If we drill for oil here and it produced oil tomorrow, it wouldn't drop the price of gas much, if at all.
Not only that, but these ads and campaign propaganda keep talking about how this energy is "ours" as if the American consumer wouldn't have to pay for it.

If people are that pissed about "sending money overseas" then we should stop trading with China too.

I'm not saying energy independence and alternative fuels aren't important, because they are. What I'm saying is that the 700 billion a year and the drilling for oil offshore ideas are red herrings designed to get people worked up.

Obama's energy plan is much more comprehensive than McCain's and he's been talking about it for alot longer. Democrats in general have been in favor of higher fuel economy standards and research and development of alternative energies, even when gas was $1.50, because they were worried about the environment.
If energy independence is truly your hot button issue, you ought to be voting for the Democrats.

If the 700 billion a year and offshore drilling are the excuse you're using to justify your vote for McCain, that's fine too, but don't try and pass it off as something else.
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