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Old 09-04-2008, 11:12 PM  
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Oh you guys. There are more registered Democrats then there are Republicans. Perhaps if you guys get off your asses and actually vote, Obama may win. Since you Democrats show a lazy attitude toward voting, it will be McCain that wins. If you actually think this country will vote a black man as the next president you are all crazy. Yes I know it is 2008, and race should not matter but it does. Sad but true. Also why all the hate on Palin? Her daughter is pregnant at 17, big deal. Barack's mother had him at 18 and she married his father after she was pregnant.
You wanting McCain to win does not equal McCain winning. Thanks for proving your racism against blacks though.

You can't compare Obama's mother with Palin's daughter because Obama had no control or influence over what his mother did before (or after) he was born.

I think the personal family shit shouldn't matter. However, it is relevant because Palin and republicans like her don't want us teaching our kids about condoms and other methods of safe sex. They want us teaching our kids to not have sex at all, and the education begins and ends there.
The end result of that sort of "education" is Palin's daughter.....who might not be pregnant had someone explained safe sex to her.

If you set a standard, then you have to live up to it. The reason Palin gets shit about her daughter that the Clinton's never got over Chelsea is because 1) Chelsea was never pregnant, and 2) The Clinton's weren't sticking their nose in other people's bedrooms.

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What can I say, I like politics. I also think that many people on here have no clue about either McCain or Obama.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

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The largest growing population in the US is Latino. I am already that so I am not worried.
Again, thanks for explaining why you decided to trash the black underclass in New Orleans and suggest that the city should be abandoned, BUT Cuban immigrants who just got here yesterday do deserve hurricane relief from the federal government.

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She is not a hypocrite. You can teach your child all of your values, that does not mean that they will listen. Teenagers have a mind of their own. Getting pregnant at 17 does not make anyone a whore. Both young ladies made a mistake and they both owned up to it. How that it terrible I do not know. Everyone in politics pushes their values. You clearly do not know a whole lot about Barack or his parents. I would suggest you read up on that before you go around making untrue statements.
You have to be a special kind of stupid to compare Palin's children to Obama's parents.

Obama had absolutely no influence over what his parents did or didn't do before or after he was born. Palin has major influence over her daughter, and again, it wouldn't be an issue if she wasn't a vocal opponent of sex education.
As a matter of fact, IF Chelsea had been pregnant, the conservatives of the 90's would have said that it was Hillary's fault for pursuing her own ambitions and neglecting her duty to raise her children.
Apparently that's not the case for an abmitious woman who opposes abortion and has an (R) after her name though.

See, the argument for abstinence only sex education goes like this.

Conservative: We should teach our children to not have sex before marriage. This is the only way to be 100% safe from pregnancy and disease, plus it's morally right.

Liberal: We can tell our kids not to have sex all we want, but alot of them are still going to have sex, so we should also teach them about condoms and other forms of protection, in case they decide not to heed our advice and have sex anyways.

Conservative: Well assuming ahead of time that your kids won't listen must mean you're not a very good parent, my children listen to me, you should do a better job of raising your children. Besides, if you show a 15 year old boy a condom and his thoughts will turn to lust.

Liberal: If you show a 15 year old boy a lug wrench........


Anyways, that's the point. It's important because they (conservatives) made it important.

I don't care if Larry Craig wants to suck a cock. I care that he sucks cock while bashing gays as a member of the Senate.

I don't care if David Vitter wants to fuck hookers, I care that he ran for election based largely on his "moral christian values" while he was fucking hookers.

I don't care if Sarah Palin's daughter is pregnant, I care that she's telling me I shouldn't teach my kids about condoms while her daughter is getting knocked up.


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