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kane · 09-04-2008, 03:06 AM

It was a speech. Nothing more. She did well, but did she do better than Obama last week? I think they are different and were aimed at different groups and were both effective. Palin's role is now clear. She, like Biden, will be there to take pot shots at the presidential candidate and clearly her main job is to rally the base in hopes that the combination of her good looks and McCain desperately trying to regain the Maverick cred he lost about 5 years ago will be enough to convince enough independents in enough swing states to vote for them.

She looked good and got in some good hits, but she is playing with the big boys now. This ain't Alaska or some podunk town, she is in the major leagues and they will hit back. Let's see how well she does when people can actually question and challenge her. You can't tell much of anything about anyone during a convention. She had a speech written by great writers and she had plenty of time to practice it and she pulled it off brilliantly, but if McCain falls flat on his face tomorrow night much of her momentum will be lost. But if McCain does well tomorrow night then they will have done what she was brought in to do and they will leave the convention with the evangelical base much happier than they were a week ago.

But will she hold up? At this point she has not spoken to anyone and has just given speeches. What will she say when they ask her how she justifies the fact that when she became mayor of her home town they had a balanced budget and when she left that position she left them with 22 million in debt? How will she defend how she first was for getting money sent to her state for the "bridge to nowhere" and then suddenly when it looked bad she was against it? How will the troopergate thing playout? How will people react when they start asking her about trying to fire the librarian of the town she became mayor of because the librarian wouldn't play along and just let her ban books? These are questions she will have to answer.

The republicans can say it is the liberal media attacking her and there may be some truth to that, but the questions are justified. If McCain wins she will be a heartbeat from the presidency and we should be allowed to know what type of person and leader she is and has been. If the shoe were on the other foot and it was Obama who had a pregnant 17 year old daughter do you not think the republican pundits would be all over him screaming about how he is not teaching his kids "good family values?" So some of it might be sexist, but the republicans weren't crying sexism when it was all the guys going after Hilary in the primaries. Now that it is their girl they are pissed. They can get as pissed as they want, eventually she will have to answer these and other questions or they will just follow her and McCain and dampen his chances.

She did good tonight, but a presidential race is like a marathon. She and Obama came out of the blocks strong, let's see how she holds up.

To me this election comes down to a couple of simple things. If, during the debates, Obama can prove he is not just a guy with a teleprompter and charisma and that he can think for himself and has good ideas and he can actually get the far left and the young voters to the polls on election day he will win. If he fails on either of those things it gets tough. If McCain can keep his base happy with Palin and he can separate himself enough from Bush to convince the independents in the swing states that he will do things differently he will be hard to beat.

Make no mistake. Conventions don't mean shit. Last week they had all but anointed Obama president. Now she is the new flavor of the minute. National polls also don't mean shit and We have the electoral college and the electoral college map is very much in favor of Obama right now. That could change, but McCain has a hill to climb and if Palin can't tow her own weight or give the right answers to the questions she will be asked in the coming weeks he is going to have to climb those hills with an albatross around his neck.

McCain threw the hail mary pass when he picked her. Right now he looks like Doug Flutie and like it might work. But next week it may be a different story all togeher.

09-04-2008, 03:06 AM
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	It was a speech. Nothing more. She did well, but did she do better than Obama last week? I think they are different and were aimed at different groups and were both effective. Palin's role is now clear. She, like Biden, will be there to take pot shots at the presidential candidate and clearly her main job is to rally the base in hopes that the combination of her good looks and McCain desperately trying to regain the Maverick cred he lost about 5 years ago will be enough to convince enough independents in enough swing states to vote for them. She looked good and got in some good hits, but she is playing with the big boys now. This ain't Alaska or some podunk town, she is in the major leagues and they will hit back. Let's see how well she does when people can actually question and challenge her. You can't tell much of anything about anyone during a convention. She had a speech written by great writers and she had plenty of time to practice it and she pulled it off brilliantly, but if McCain falls flat on his face tomorrow night much of her momentum will be lost. But if McCain does well tomorrow night then they will have done what she was brought in to do and they will leave the convention with the evangelical base much happier than they were a week ago. But will she hold up? At this point she has not spoken to anyone and has just given speeches. What will she say when they ask her how she justifies the fact that when she became mayor of her home town they had a balanced budget and when she left that position she left them with 22 million in debt? How will she defend how she first was for getting money sent to her state for the "bridge to nowhere" and then suddenly when it looked bad she was against it? How will the troopergate thing playout? How will people react when they start asking her about trying to fire the librarian of the town she became mayor of because the librarian wouldn't play along and just let her ban books? These are questions she will have to answer. The republicans can say it is the liberal media attacking her and there may be some truth to that, but the questions are justified. If McCain wins she will be a heartbeat from the presidency and we should be allowed to know what type of person and leader she is and has been. If the shoe were on the other foot and it was Obama who had a pregnant 17 year old daughter do you not think the republican pundits would be all over him screaming about how he is not teaching his kids "good family values?" So some of it might be sexist, but the republicans weren't crying sexism when it was all the guys going after Hilary in the primaries. Now that it is their girl they are pissed. They can get as pissed as they want, eventually she will have to answer these and other questions or they will just follow her and McCain and dampen his chances. She did good tonight, but a presidential race is like a marathon. She and Obama came out of the blocks strong, let's see how she holds up. To me this election comes down to a couple of simple things. If, during the debates, Obama can prove he is not just a guy with a teleprompter and charisma and that he can think for himself and has good ideas and he can actually get the far left and the young voters to the polls on election day he will win. If he fails on either of those things it gets tough. If McCain can keep his base happy with Palin and he can separate himself enough from Bush to convince the independents in the swing states that he will do things differently he will be hard to beat. Make no mistake. Conventions don't mean shit. Last week they had all but anointed Obama president. Now she is the new flavor of the minute. National polls also don't mean shit and We have the electoral college and the electoral college map is very much in favor of Obama right now. That could change, but McCain has a hill to climb and if Palin can't tow her own weight or give the right answers to the questions she will be asked in the coming weeks he is going to have to climb those hills with an albatross around his neck. McCain threw the hail mary pass when he picked her. Right now he looks like Doug Flutie and like it might work. But next week it may be a different story all togeher.