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kane · 08-30-2008, 12:48 PM

Baddog is right. Every election is seems the democrats find a new and interesting way of losing. This year things looked good for them, but they rushed to be different and historic and that hurt them. But McCain keeps shooting himself in the foot and I feel his VP pick is a hail mary of sorts and may have him falling flat on his face.

If you look at that electoral-vote.com site you can see the big story. The nationwide polls mean nothing. There are around 6-8 states that Bush won easy in the last two elections and are typically republican strong hold states. Obama has put them in play. This means McCain will have to spend a lot of time and money just defending them and he has not taken away and Democrat stronghold states. McCain will have a big disadvantage in money as well. That site also made a great point the other day. All Obama has to do is win the states Kerry won (most of which he has decent lead in) and then win any one of about 6 or 7 toss up states and he wins while McCain has to defend his states and win most of the toss up states. Sure Obama has to win Penn and Mich to win, but the Dems have won them in the last 2 election and he has a decent lead in those states. Biden has roots in Penn and will be a huge asset there as well.

It isn't going to be easy for either, but both sides know these states are key.

08-30-2008, 12:48 PM
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Baddog is right. Every election is seems the democrats find a new and interesting way of losing. This year things looked good for them, but they rushed to be different and historic and that hurt them. But McCain keeps shooting himself in the foot and I feel his VP pick is a hail mary of sorts and may have him falling flat on his face. If you look at that electoral-vote.com site you can see the big story. The nationwide polls mean nothing. There are around 6-8 states that Bush won easy in the last two elections and are typically republican strong hold states. Obama has put them in play. This means McCain will have to spend a lot of time and money just defending them and he has not taken away and Democrat stronghold states. McCain will have a big disadvantage in money as well. That site also made a great point the other day. All Obama has to do is win the states Kerry won (most of which he has decent lead in) and then win any one of about 6 or 7 toss up states and he wins while McCain has to defend his states and win most of the toss up states. Sure Obama has to win Penn and Mich to win, but the Dems have won them in the last 2 election and he has a decent lead in those states. Biden has roots in Penn and will be a huge asset there as well. It isn't going to be easy for either, but both sides know these states are key.