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Old 08-16-2008, 12:13 PM  
Robbie
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No shit.. I told another "outspoken" small program operator the same thing awhile ago.. Asked him why the hell he was letting review sites take over the top listings for his sites and thus the revenue. I told him that he should be working on "owning" most of top 10 for his own sites... It was like a revelation for him and yet to me it just seems to be common sense.

Robbie - The issues isn't that you bragged about some affiliate making you tons of sales. It was that you gave out information about how he was doing it... If I was an affiliate of yours that had spent a lot of time and money on getting you a bunch of traffic and then you went and shared that with everyone else so they could then figure out what I did and try and duplicate all my work, I'd be pretty fucking pissed off with you and wouldn't put anymore work into promoting your sites. It shows a complete lack of respect for the efforts affiliates put into promoting your sites in this highly competitive business.
Tempest, I have been an affiliate myself for more years than most of the guys in this thread put together. I didn't see where I gave away any "secrets" I see NOTHING wrong in saying that an affiliate secured a to spot on a search engine. So what? That's not a "secret" that I'm giving away. I don't even KNOW how he did it. Much less give away this great "secret"

As I said earlier in this thread...a few years ago I won a motorcycle from Lightspeed because I sent so many joins. There was no "secret" to it. I had the traffic and the quality of traffic. Nobody could take what I did. I am still not quite understanding the concept of saying it's fucking someone over by saying: "Hey, if you get the number one spot for a paysite you will make money." Fucking DUH

Finally, I also made it very clear in the beginning that I had begun the process of putting the text (That I PERSONALLY write) on the page and off of the graphic. We had been working on that for about 5 days BEFORE I ever talked to my affiliate.

The only reason I even wrote him in the first place was because he's from a country that we used to ban 10 years ago. But now those webmasters are playing by the rules. But with no referring urls' except google...I wanted to know what the fuck was going on. Wanted to make sure there was no affiliate scamming going on.

When he told me that he had the top spot...I came on here basically to say: "Hey, if you work hard and get a top spot on Google you'll make money"

I had no other ulterior motives at all.

As for my "poor" seo work. Yes, it was. I've always had enough traffic that I didn't really care about Search Engines. But over the last couple of weeks (again BEFORE this affiliate) I had begun doing some reading.

And everyone that knows me, knows that I'm a pretty quick study. So I realized that the text I write is EXACTLY what Google wants. I'm a good writer. Probably one of my best attributes.

So, I got with my graphics guy about a week ago and told him what I wanted to do. He is recovering from a heart attack that he suffered about a month ago...so he took a few days to get the graphics together for us to make the change.

But we got it done yesterday.

And today? My site's tour link is now the number one spot. No ref codes. Just my site.

So going by the logic of some people on here...I should now be pissed off at myself. I just gave away my "secret". And now somebody else will knock me out of my number 1 position.

Cool. Go ahead if you can. I'm not in a competition with seo "gurus". I just wanted to get the text off of my graphics so google would "see" me better.

But again...I am not convinced by anyone on here that I gave away anybodies "secret". My intentions were never malicious. And the result wasn't either. I didn't hurt my affiliate by bragging about his accomplishment anymore than Lightspeed did by giving me a motorcycle and publicizing it everywhere.

If anything, I made that affiliate some money by busting my ass being the writer, videographer, photographer, editor, designer, uploader, tech, and most importantly promoter of Claudia-Marie.Com ...so that when traffic does come from Google or an affiliate link, it WILL convert and retain.
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