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Old 08-11-2008, 12:05 PM  
Pleasurepays
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Originally Posted by MakingItPay View Post
Yeah. Not sure where rehearsing movements in a vacuum was part of my threads here, but if I insinuated a no sparring/rolling program to become a good martial artist, i would like to change my argument now. I also think you should wear Tapout shirts if you really want to be a good fighter.
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Will your training matter a goddamn in the real world unless you train under adrenal dump situations daily? You say no, I say yes. I will agree to disagree.
what i understand him to be saying is that you have to train hard in real world situations to be effective. i agree with that.

if i misunderstood you, then i apologize.

the "pressure point" thing is a common reference in chinese martial arts and implies just what the video attempts to show (although its obviously not real/fake or the kid is just one more jedi wannabe) - which basically says that with little effort you can strike certain points on the body and interfere either directly with the nervous system, chi or the invisible unicorns or whatever. kicking someone in the face and knocking them out isn't anything to do with "pressure points" in the context of the video and what they are demonstrating. you can easily transfer well over 1000 pounds of force with a shin to the chest or head. thats not "pressure points" and jarring someones brain dramatically in any fashion doesn't automatically mean it has to have a special name, special place to strike or whatever.

I have served my time. I have a black belt in Go Ju Ryu, have spent substantial time training shotokan, kickboxing and boxing. I have owned a martial arts school, been to countless tournaments and schools and seen more delusional bullshit in martial arts the business of "self defense" than you could see at 10,000 star trek conventions. I have seen people with black belts in karate who have never sparred once. I have seen countless delusional women who wanted more than anything to believe they were a badass and "powerful" that i would just pray they never tried to hit someone and actually had a pissed off person take them out. i have seen endless kung fu schools talking about all their secret, mystical, uber-deadly techniques that by no strange coincidence, can't be demonstrated and those same fucking retards who finally get bullied into entering a tournament... getting totally decimated by someone with 1/2 the experience/training.

the whole world of martial arts is 90% bullshit. there is a solid reason MMA ended up being kickboxing/grappling - because it gravitated towards what works in the real world. What works best to fuck someone up isn't someones magical, mystical, 1000 year old, venomous dragon teeth on fire technique... turns out... basic kicks, punches, blocks, take downs, chokes, arm bars, leg bars etc etc are what works in real life.

few things annoy me more than people trying to talk about "secret techniques" in martial arts.

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